Why would the unborn baby not be just that: a baby? After all, even an unborn elephant is protected under law. Are not human beings put at a higher value than that of an elephant?

Humans are classified scientifically as animals, but we don’t always rise above that name when it comes to our decisons and behavior.

Right!

But I still have a question:

Who says that anyone has the right or choice to kill?

Well, that’s true, but there are women out there who do not feel any emotional pain after having an abortion.

The argument is that by making women have to wait to get an abortion or to not allow them to have an abortion is to deny a woman her autonomy. People who hold this position view that those who want to take away this “reproductive right” are treating women like they are stupid and cannot make their own choices about their bodies. What I think this argument lacks, however, is the consideration of another’s body – the unborn child.

The pro-life side is concerned with the unborn child whereas the pro-abortion side is concerned about the woman and her “rights.” It’s almost like comparing apples to oranges – not quite, but close.

[quote:1w8ipbcl]St. Peter’s experience is more realistic, but I also think there is a little bit of St. Paul-type conversion for most people. It is just that we have many very small conversions, such as temporary “blindness” where we are taken slightly aback in life and/or cannot see where we are going, and we have to put trust in God. These small conversions add up, some contribute more than others, but nonetheless, they have an effect. ” title=”Smile” />

If I think about it, I do find that there were/are “mini-conversions” in my life that did in fact influence my faith, but that I seem to forget or overlook . How about you? Do you think small faith experiences add up?[/quote:1w8ipbcl]

I think that is a great way to look at things. ” title=”Smile” />

For me, the St. Peter way seems more realistic, but you are right – there are small conversion experiences in my life. Once in a while there are big ones, which is what St. Paul is known for, but I do have small ones along the way.

I think affiliating a particular religious group with a political party is dangerous – especially in terms of the Catholic Church which serves as more of an arbiter between the 2 sides. I will write more on that topic later because I am discussing some very interesting things along these lines in one of my classes (I guess all those thousands of dollars going to the state for an “education” are really worth something after all :rolleyes: ).

Anyway, I can’t believe that there would even be a law that would deny someone food and water because they cannot verbalize that they need it. I mean, that is just purely idiodic! How could anyone with even half a brain make a law like that much less a group of people?

And it’s nice to see some progress on this abortion thing. I think this topic will heat up more as the years pass, especially if Bush is reelected in 2004 and continues to support laws like this. Some of the comments I have on the abortion issue also lead to the comments I said I was going to make earlier so I will not go into those here, but in a separate post. ” title=”Smile” />

St. Peter’s experience is more realistic, but I also think there is a little bit of St. Paul-type conversion for most people. It is just that we have many very small conversions, such as temporary “blindness” where we are taken slightly aback in life and/or cannot see where we are going, and we have to put trust in God. These small conversions add up, some contribute more than others, but nonetheless, they have an effect. ” title=”Smile” />

If I think about it, I do find that there were/are “mini-conversions” in my life that did in fact influence my faith, but that I seem to forget or overlook . How about you? Do you think small faith experiences add up?