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  • #872

    The election is really 50 seperate elections.

    #3107

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    The way Minnesota is, I think Kerry will win.

    #3143

    tee
    Member

    Colorado is WAAAY Republican.

    I’m a conservative Democrat, or Independent.

    Darn.

    #3152

    Isn’t a [i:w4l3e9ji]conservative democrat[/i:w4l3e9ji] an endangered species now?
    I mean Ernest Hollings, John Breaux and zell Miller are retiring for a reason, aren’t they?

    I read Zell miller’s [i:w4l3e9ji]A national party no more[/i:w4l3e9ji] and I have come to believe that the party of JFK (the real one) doesn’t exist anymore.

    It has to open your eyes that the same Dem who gave Clinton’s keynote address will now give Bush’s.
    anyway…just my humble opinion. Welcome and hope you stay active here!

    #3153

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    Are you saying the Democratic party has changed or evolved over the years? If so, how? I think it would be interesting to know a little more.

    #3156

    In fact, in many respects, the Republican and democratic Parties have reversed. If I asked you to name the President who said;
    [i:3kd7emer]It is a paradox of our time that tax receipts are too low because tax rates are too high[/i:3kd7emer], I’m guessing you would say George W Bush or maybe even Ronald Reagen. The truth is that that quote was by John F Kennedy.

    Up until recent years, our new friend the [i:3kd7emer]conservative democrat[/i:3kd7emer] would have been the norm. Now, they are the exception. Whereas the party of the Bible values, low taxes, Gun rights, and life used to be the Democrats, those things are now anethema to the party.

    There was a time when the typical Democrat was a Bible believing, family values practicing, Blue collar working stiff. Now, the party has become so hostage to the trial lawyers, unions, abortion promoters and special interests that they have lost their identity. This has caused many prominent Democrats to become Republicans-Ronand Reagen for instance.

    The party has increasingly become entrenched in the inner cities while ceding the South and the Mid West to the GOP.

    You really should read [i:3kd7emer]A National party no more[/i:3kd7emer] by Zell Miller. A retiring Democratic Senator who has more time in the Democratic Party than any current Senator except for Robert Byrd.
    Miller was the keynote speaker at Bill Clinton’s nominating convention but will now give the Address for George W Bush.

    #3157

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    Then that would explain why so many Catholics have voted Democrat in the past – however, the values of the Democratic party have changed. It’s interesting to see the abortion supporters use that kind of information to distort the truth. Groups such as Catholics for a Free Choice (which isn’t Catholic) and such make all these statements proclaiming that Catholics have always been super-liberal when that is not actually the case.

    #3174

    [quote:1jam1o8a]Then that would explain why so many Catholics have voted Democrat in the past – however, the values of the Democratic party have changed. It’s interesting to see the abortion supporters use that kind of information to distort the truth. Groups such as Catholics for a Free Choice (which isn’t Catholic) and such make all these statements proclaiming that Catholics have always been super-liberal when that is not actually the case.[/quote:1jam1o8a]

    It is only true depending on how one defines [i:1jam1o8a]liberal[/i:1jam1o8a].
    Economic liberalism- the idea that the government needs to be a sort of nurturer has always been strong in Catholic circles.
    However, the social liberal views on abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality could never be embraced by any legitimate Catholic

    #3351

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    I should change my vote for this poll because based on what I saw at the State Fair today there were a lot of people wearing W pins and no one wearing Kerry pins. Perhaps the DFL didn’t have any fancy Kerry things to hand out.

    #3355

    Bush 52
    Kerry 41
    Nader 3

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