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    James
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    I’m writing this topic purely because I’m quite upset with a YouTuber. His recent videos seem that he has now joined a religion called Pastafarianism and their God-Head is The Flying Spaghetti Monster. From a Christian point of view, this whole faith is nothing but a parody of Christianity (even their so-called “sacred canon” is called [u:22bioodv][i:22bioodv]The Gospel of The Flying Spaghetti Monster[/u:22bioodv][/i:22bioodv]) From a Universal Look at things, it looks like a religion that is fully functional. I want your opinion. I would like to know your thoughts on this Faith. (if your still confused, here’s their official website [url:22bioodv]http://www.venganza.org/[/url:22bioodv])

    #9737

    Andres Ortiz
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    I believe it’s entirely a parody.

    #9738

    LARobert
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    While some people use the concept or term as a parody, Christopher Dawkin started the term to ridicule any belief in God, by saying that any belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster was just as rational as belief in God.

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    James
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    "LARobert":1lg2la9z wrote:
    Christopher Dawkin started the term to ridicule any belief in God, by saying that any belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster was just as rational as belief in God.[/quote:1lg2la9z]
    Do you mean any belief in God(s) (such as how the Jews, the Muslims, the Christians, the Hindus, etc.) view Him?

    And wasn’t this all to counter the [i:1lg2la9z]’Creationism taught in Schools'[/i:1lg2la9z] problem in Kansas?

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    LARobert
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    "James":2qczved9 wrote:
    "LARobert":2qczved9 wrote:
    Christopher Dawkin started the term to ridicule any belief in God, by saying that any belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster was just as rational as belief in God.[/quote:2qczved9]
    Do you mean any belief in God(s) (such as how the Jews, the Muslims, the Christians, the Hindus, etc.) view Him?

    And wasn’t this all to counter the [i:2qczved9]’Creationism taught in Schools'[/i:2qczved9] problem in Kansas?[/quote:2qczved9]
    There I go again, getting caught by not fact checking. The Flying Spaghetti Monster phenomina was an invention Bobby Henderson, in 2005 then a 25-year-old Oregon State University physics graduate, sent an open letter regarding the Flying Spaghetti Monster to the Kansas State Board of Education.

    It has grown into an Athiest cause celebre. I was thinking of Richard Dawson, not Christoper D, who was an Anglican clergyman who converted to the RCC in the early 1900’s and later was condemned for the heretical Modernist views he published.

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    James
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    That’s quite alright <img src=” title=”Smile” /> I just find it funny that on the website it was advertising the [i:2ixvw5jc]Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster[/i:2ixvw5jc] and it said Over 100,000 sold! I thought to my self, “That’s nothing. The Bible sold over Millions and Millions of copies!”

    #9893

    Papa.Cod
    Member

    So what if people believe in a flying pile of spaghetti? That’s up to them not you. you have no right to say that ‘they’re wrong and catholics are so much better.’ Look at you James. You’re siding with these people AND YOURE NOT EVEN CATHOLIC!!!!! Total hoax…HA!!! How can you prove that the Pope’s infallible? Under certain circumstances? Pfff. Who’s to say when and where and even why that man who is no different than you and me be leader of christendom. you folk need to wake up and smell the coffee. Who’s to say that mormons or jews or muslims or catholics are right? how about wiccians? are they wrong? Really guys? really? just wanting to throw that out there. sorry to ruin this stale conversation

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    Cruxis117
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    Papa.Cod, I believe that it would be plain to see that the FSM is a parody (and a slightly funny one at that) and you don’t see anyone saying that the “catholics are so much better”, or at least I haven’t seen that in this thread so far. In terms of the Infallibility of the Pope, you must understand that we have these “certain circumstances” and protocols so that the faith will be organized, and at the same time clear enough so that average layperson will be able to understand what is, and what isn’t, taught by the Church. Furthermore, Who’s to say that the Roman Catholic Church isn’t right? Who’s to say that they aren’t? The truth, is that we have hope, faith, and trust in an institution that has lasted for 2000 years, has taught, even throughout the darkest days of it’s existence, sound doctrine, and there always have been, and always will be, members of the Church who have and will defend and continue it. As well as, and more importantly, we have trust in God and his only begotten Son. And I think that, although I may be unjustified to assume this, but I believe that I can say that for the 1 billion Catholics out there, we all agree on this. So, ultimately, yes, what is it to us that others have those beliefs? More importantly, what is it to you?

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    leegal
    Member

    As my deceased grandmother would say, “the devil appears in many forms.” I don’t think this is of much interest, even as parody. Even as a somewhat confused Catholic, I do believe there are things that we need not explore.

    As for the Pope — when speaking Ex Cathedra — he is infallible. That’s the “when and where.” It’s taken on faith, not proof. There are many things in Catholicism that are taken on faith alone.

    I prefer not to address other religious beliefs, or get into a discussion on the benefits of one religion or another, but I do believe that Wiccans are delving into a dangerous area — same for mind readers, psychics, horoscopes and other such areas. Whether one believes Wicca to be witchcraft or paganism, I would requote my grandmother. I did take some things from my religious upbringing which I consider to be very valid. I would look at a religion as to whether it had “cult-like” qualities, though many have accused Catholicism of being a “cult” — which I strongly disagree.

    I was raised old-school R.C., prior to Vatican II, and there are some things that I believe the Church is absolutely correct in stating should be avoided. This would be one of them, since you, James, found it to be “upsetting.” It’s not even funny as a parody.

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