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April 29, 2007 at 7:33 pm #1652AnonymousInactive
The Era of Peace
The Era of Peace will be established by Jesus when He comes in glory in His spirit. Jesus will not be present in the flesh, but will reign in our will and, in a most powerful way, by means of the Eucharist. The duration of this kingdom cannot be interpreted as a literal 1,000 years. The doctrine of the [b:3v0fjbhy]Millennium[/b:3v0fjbhy] – an “age to come”, an “era” of peace or “some mighty triumph of Christianity before the end” – has been accepted as sound doctrine. [b:3v0fjbhy]Millenarianism[/b:3v0fjbhy], which is substantially different, has been condemned by the Church. Re: Rev 20:1-6; Isa 65:17-25; Dan 2:44.
Speech of Fr. Stefano Gobbi:
The Era of Peace will soon arrive!
.April 30, 2007 at 12:13 am #8122AnonymousInactive
Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the “mystery of iniquity” in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. the supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.
The Antichrist’s deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgement. the Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism[color=red:tx9x51fc] Divini Redemptoris, condemning the “false mysticism” of this “counterfeit of the redemption of the lowly”; cf. GS 20-21., [/color:tx9x51fc]especially the “intrinsically perverse” political form of a secular messianism.
The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God’s victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven. God’s triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgement after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.April 30, 2007 at 12:54 am #8123AnonymousInactive
Indeed [b:3d4l3wdv]millenarianism[/b:3d4l3wdv] has been condemned. As I indicated in my post, and as is detailed at the link provided the [b:3d4l3wdv]millenium[/b:3d4l3wdv][b:3d4l3wdv] is different[/b:3d4l3wdv]…..[u:3d4l3wdv]it is not a modified form of millenarianism.[/u:3d4l3wdv] Please read the writing at the following URL noting the excerpts of the teachings of the Fathers, and Holy Scripture.
Note the words of Fr. Roux contained therein:
“It is important to note that the Magisterium has not yet made a definitive pronouncement about the “millennium” or “temporal kingdom.”.
Especially significant are the words of Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in this regard. Theologian Martino Penasa, presented him with this question of Christ’s spiritual millenary reign (not millenarianism), and the Cardinal reassured him that the matter is still open to discussion and that [b:3d4l3wdv]”the Holy See has not yet made any definite pronouncement in this regard.”[/b:3d4l3wdv]
Fr. Stefano Gobbi received messages from Our Lady from 1973 – 1997 (25 years). Such messages teach extensively on the forthcoming Era of Peace. Fr. Gobbi’s messages carry [color=red:3d4l3wdv][b:3d4l3wdv]IMPRIMATURS[/b:3d4l3wdv] [/color:3d4l3wdv]from 3 Cardinals, several Archbishops, and several Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church. The three Cardinals in question are: the late Cardinal Echeverria of Ecuador, Cardinal Vidal of the Philippines and Cardinal Mikai of Thailand.
While the Imprimatur is not a declaration of authenticity of the messages being received from Our Lady, it does assure the reader that the messages are FREE FROM DOCTRINAL ERROR – i.e. they do not contain anything, which is contrary to the Catholic faith or morals.
The website of the Marian Movement of Priests which he founded pursuant to the directions of Our Lady can be found at:
The Catholic Theologian, Fr. Ianuzzi, has written a book about it entitled: “The Triumph of God’s Kingdom in the Millennium and End Times”. The book teaches of the forthcoming Era of Peace and carries the [b:3d4l3wdv][color=red:3d4l3wdv]IMPRIMATUR.[/color:3d4l3wdv][/b:3d4l3wdv]
You can find such book here:
The Era of Peace will soon be here!May 4, 2007 at 3:15 am #8235AnonymousInactive
Just some thoughts:
I really enjoyed “The Lamb’s Supper” by Scott Hahn, a liturgical look concerning the book of Revelation.
I lean towards Nero as the beast in Revelation and that a lot of Revelation was fulfilled before 70AD.
Notice that the word antichrist does not appear in Rev. and that Christ does not come to earth as supposed by many prophecy addicts.
John specifically mentions the spirit of antichrist in the world at that time.
Conservative scholarship dates Rev. before 70AD.
Scott does a beautiful job showing Christ’s coming in the Eucharist at mass.
JP2 looked for a springtime of evangelism for the new millennium.
I personally see the Church in the great struggle now, fighting the enemy of communism, and now radical Islam . (Our weapons of course mentioned in Eph. 6).
I believe that the Church will triumph and that there will be the Ages of Faith again, similar to the High Middle Ages.
I don’t believe in a coming utopia. I don’t believe that everyone will be happy, happy, happy.
But I do believe it will be better than it is now.
( I have no idea why I just ranted like this in that it is late and wonder if I really know what I’m talking about. But there you have it).May 4, 2007 at 2:36 pm #8238AnonymousInactive
[quote:vpfaiawh]Notice that the word antichrist does not appear in Rev. and that Christ does not come to earth as supposed by many prophecy addicts.[/quote:vpfaiawh]
I have read enough of your posts to see that you are conversant in Scripture/Tradition…..my guess is that it was late, and only an oversight…..
but your statement(s) suggests that the Apocalypse of John is the only prophetic text regarding the End Times. I know that you know that the 2nd coming of Jesus is predicted, if not in the Apocalypse, in other texts.
Indeed, He shall return upon the clouds with all of the hosts of Heaven by His side!
Maranan tha!May 4, 2007 at 3:31 pm #8239AnonymousInactive
Thank you for your follow up.
Amen! Christ will come back in glory!
But He will not set up an earthly throne in Jerusalem for a 1000 years. I guess I was directing my statements towards premillennial dispensationalists (remember I was in Protestantism for a long time dealing with prophecy maniacs).
Amen! Come Lord Jesus!May 5, 2007 at 12:11 am #8240AnonymousInactive
” title=”Confused” /> My question is,God says at the end of time he will judge the living and the dead and the bodys will rise from the grave to be reunited with ones soul,what is confusing to me is when one dies his soul leaves his body and either goes to heaven,hell or purgatory how can he be judged again if he’s at one of those places all ready?May 5, 2007 at 2:34 am #8241AnonymousInactive
“…Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on Earth as it is in heaven.”May 5, 2007 at 2:42 am #8242AnonymousInactive
Check out CCC 988-1019. Especially 997-999
Additionally, we will be judged twice…..once at a particular judgement, and then again at our general judgement.May 10, 2007 at 12:45 am #8275AnonymousInactive
I’m confused,when one dies and is lucky to goto heaven at the end of time he will be judged again and could goto hell?May 10, 2007 at 12:58 am #8276AnonymousInactive
Going to heaven has little or nothing to do with luck. If one dies in a state of grace, one will enter the kingdom. If one has temporal punishment due, one is purified, made ready to see God face to face. At death there is the particular judgement. You stand before the Holy Trinity. Heaven or Hell, it is determined. At the end of time there is a belief in General Judgement, all humanity will know your darkest secrets. Everyone will know the determination of everyone’s soul.
Unlike earth, those who are condemned to Hell as well as those who are forever in the sight of God are fully aware of God’s justice, and that they are rewarded or punished according to their own deeds, they will praise God for His justice.
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