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You stated:
So let’s see if I have this straight – you say we have Baptism to get Justified 2 until you die to get re-justified in confession to a priest 3 – then there is before death – the last rites and as you just pointed out – even after death, theres Purgatory – all those sacraments and methods to get rid of sins …… I wonder what Jesus accomplished at Calvary then…..
Naw – I’ll stick with Jesus

Stick to whatever you want, but it’s certainly not Christ[/quote:29tyellr].

Think you have your prioities mixed up. But it’s the point that I was trying to illustrate earlier. You say the right words (Jesus cleansed us with His Blood on the cross) but then your religious practices show that you still believe in these supposedly methods. And this is no different then your belief in meriting grace, how by definition can that be possible? It goes a gainst Roman’s 11:6! As I said, Victor, you don’t show that Catholics are saved because of this, more like 1 John 1:6 – [b:29tyellr][color=darkred:29tyellr]If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: [/color:29tyellr][/b:29tyellr]

[quote:29tyellr]Ron wrote:
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

I’m not even in the law. Doesn’t apply. Wanna try again? [/quote:29tyellr]
No and you aren’t saved yet either (I said what was needed above but here it is anyway)
1 Cor 11:30 _For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
Ron wrote:
Hello? Acts 5 they died 1 Cor. 11:30 the word sleep is used for Chistians that died! ]Hello? Acts 5 they died 1 Cor. 11:30 the word sleep is used for Chistians that died!

Hello? I’m talking about in the same verse. Or can you not find it in there and twist other verses to suit your point. [/quote:29tyellr]
You mean like your Church does?

[quote:29tyellr]Ron wrote:
Sure, why not? If you want to reduce it that then yes.

I answered your question already, but Jon already did it in simple terms for you. [/quote:29tyellr]

Thank you guys, I think I made you see the problem. Although I doubt that you’ll accept this to be FACT as I show above.