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[quote:21d8o1rd]Ron, I’d like to contribute to the conversation. But before I do, can you please clarify your question? Are you asking why catholics believe sacraments gives us grace?

Hello Victor,
Basically I’m asking why – If you deny tihe saving value of Jesus’s finished work at calvary and yet you claim that we recieve graces through sacraments, (dispite Romans 11:6 – work OR grace – it cannot be both)
where or upon what do you base sacraments as having been established for that purpose?