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LARoberts says:
[quote:2rnurixa]rather the more correct translation perverted by Protestant writers who wanted to deny any special role the Mary plays in the process of our salvation knows it can mean brother, cousin or relative[/quote:2rnurixa]
Ah, but which one is it? Looking at context such as in Matthew’s account of 13:15,56 – [color=red:2rnurixa]Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses,[h] Simon, and Judas? 56 And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this Man get all these things?”[/color:2rnurixa] the only rational answer is brothers. Also in Matthew 12: 47-50 it clearly is not a relative or cousin. Plus the other Scriptures couldhave written in a different word if it was a cousin or relative. Now explain how you come up with the idea that it would mean
[quote:2rnurixa]that He was seduced by the devil in the Jewish mind.[/quote:2rnurixa]
Looks like you are grabing straws!
[quote:2rnurixa]Early Church honored our Lady.[/quote:2rnurixa]
No problem honoring Mary but the part of
[quote:2rnurixa]special role the Mary plays in the process of our salvation [/quote:2rnurixa]
is limited to Having consented to Be Jesus’ mother, that’s it!
[quote:2rnurixa]by giving the resposibility over to someone who was not His blood relative, let alone brother[/quote:2rnurixa]
He views a believer as one that will care for Mary more then His Half-brothers of whom were not saved until after the death and resurrection of Jesus – No problem there Mr. Educated one!

[quote:2rnurixa]the trap that Satan has set by the Sola Sciptura lie[/quote:2rnurixa]
Until you show anything that is from God that carries the importance as His
word, you’ll just have to keep blowing hot air. BTW we know that the Bible is from God if for no other reason then prophetcy – One third of the Bible is prophetcy with no errors – that is one reason Jesus said “why I tell you before hand.”

[quote:2rnurixa]I doubt Ronnie boy will look at them (Reasonable arguments are like water on the Wicked Witch of the West) http://www.scripturecatholic.com/blesse … he_bvm-VII [/quote:2rnurixa]
After being accused of circular reasoning, you chose to use Catholic materials to prove catholic claims? But which one should I follow?
[quote:2rnurixa]VII. Mary’s Coronation in Heaven -2 Tim 4:8 – Paul says that there is laid up for him the crown of righteousness. The saints are crowned in heaven, and Mary is the greatest saint of all.[/quote:2rnurixa]
yet 2 Timothy 4:8 in reality says – [color=red:2rnurixa] Finally, there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.[/color:2rnurixa]
never mentions a word about Mary (and as my article shows her being Jesus’ mother was not of great Heavenly value as we see in Luke 11:27,28 and Matthew 11:11) Is John Salza an unknown, infallible pope or something? Nope! <img decoding=” title=”Very Happy” />
[quote:2rnurixa]it is evident that Ron does not look at or weigh the evidence[/quote:2rnurixa]
Evidence Mr. LARoberts, Yes let us not fail to examine all the evidence by starting with God’s word not your church’s empty boasts and claims – we want the truth not your stories of fiction nor your postings filled with accusations about my lack of credibility without credible evidence.

[quote:2rnurixa]BTW, I’ve not seen Ronnies reply to why there are more than one differing accounts of Creation in the Bible, (See Gen 1 Gen 2 and the Psalms)[/url][/quote:2rnurixa]
Mr. LARoberts – there is only one way that the Earth was created, not two ways. Are you sure you want to go there? (think about it before you decide just how you feel that there are two)