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[quote:2kzu4ivp]Actually, Luther didn’t desire separation, just reform of the abuse of indulgences and papal power. He was excommunicated by the Pope leading to the separation.[/quote:2kzu4ivp]
Perhaps initially, but I can’t imagine this holding long after the excommunication.
The problem was, in part, [b:lacb23vf]how[/b:lacb23vf] Luther went about with his objections. His language became invictive and his actions, escalating with time, led him to heresy.
Luther objected to the sale of indulgences, as he very well should have. But when he did not find support from the bishops, he decided to attack the doctrine of indulgences and the office of the Pope as though that would somehow find greater support.
[quote:2dxdbp3r]The problem was, in part, [b:2dxdbp3r]how[/b:2dxdbp3r] Luther went about with his objections. His language became invictive and his actions, escalating with time, led him to heresy.[/quote:2dxdbp3r]
[color=darkblue:2dxdbp3r]Actually, Luther had a different angle on salvation before all this havoc even began. The latter events only further lead him astray in views he had alredy held. It developed them.[/color:2dxdbp3r]
I see here some… conflicting understandings of Luther and his “rebellion” lol.
ever read church history outside of protestant/catholic authorship? You’ll get the unbias view then.
I said I wasn’t coming back to this thread but this is a funny thread…
By the way, I love the site here but is there any older authorities here representing the Catholic faith (I mean older than myself and Jon, and Benedict)? Some of the questions I’ve read on this site really need an experienced cleric to answer don’t you think (some questions about purgatory, hell, etc, are pretty deep and should be handled with experience and wisdom).
Relative:
Do you mean that it’s not absolute or that it can have significant contribution here?
[quote:3hqzs0rq]Relative:
Do you mean that it’s not absolute or that it can have significant contribution here?[/quote:3hqzs0rq]
Meaning that simply because one is of a certain age and not an ordained status does not make that person just as or even more knowledgeable than one with such criteria. i.e. some priests who have been at it for 40 years are dolts in these areas.Granted Benedict and I are not the end all be all. However, I do concur that other people are able to articulate things in a way that makes sense better for certain people.
I tend to direct people to priests for any pastoral questions. Any question of what the Church teaches tends to be relatively easy to answer because the Church’s teachings are rather public. But as I am not a people person as a rule, and far from qualified to even give an opinion on an outfit let alone something important, I try not to answer anything requiring those skills.
well said. yeah, a lot of questions here can be answered by a knowledgeable Catholic. Others, like questions on purgatory I guess all one can do is summarize what’s been put forth by the Catholic Church. I was just curious if you guys have a superior, or mentor, or someone that has helped maintain the theological framework being put forth here or if it is mostly behind the mastermind Jon
” title=”Very Happy” />Not bad for young Catholics
” title=”Very Happy” />Good luck with us over-emotional Protestants, we can be a real pain in the ___
” title=”Very Happy” />[quote:2nymkvtc]I was just curious if you guys have a superior, or mentor, or someone that has helped maintain the theological framework being put forth here or if it is mostly behind the mastermind Jon
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We are all from different geographical locations so we each probably have our own mentors.I think Benedict is the mastermind, actually, as far as knowing all the finer details of doctrinal development and the nitpicky kind of stuff.
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