Uncertaindrummer Posted just a few points worth answering:
[quote:2drhz6s7]Second, you DON’T know they are legitimate. Your pastor is no authority. He is every bit as fallible as everyone else. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
Wrong on two points- I do know, you are the one who doesn’t have a clue. Maybe someday you will look for yourself to see what the Lord has in the Bible, but then again your own magestirium says you can’t know!
And secondly, you don’t even know who my pastor is or what he believes, but you seem to know how fallible he is? Sounds like you’re drumming needs a tune-up! But for the record, he is fallible, just as your magestirium people are, so what is your point?
[quote:2drhz6s7]Wrong again. The Word *is* Jesus, not His teachings. Also, you just try to throw that “the Bible is His book for us” in there, but you have no reason for believing that. He never even MENTIONED the Bible. He talked about the Old Testament Scriptures, but that hardly serves your purposes. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
Seeing you don’t know how to interpret, this comment from you means nothing…..
[quote:2drhz6s7]So you don’t even *know* what a first century Christian would do? Ron, you are unbelievable. Talk about lack of reason. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
Well if they are truly Christian, They would believe in what Jesus taught.
True Christianity hasn’t Changed.
[quote:2drhz6s7]You haven’t even shown why we need to believe in the Bible, much less how the Church is teaching unbiblical things (a category which Sola Scriptura would fall into by the way). Regardless, you are simply dodging questions to which you have no answer. A Christian in the 8th century relied on the Church, not a book he didn’t own and couldn’t read. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
Yes as even in Paul’s letter to Timothy in the first century, he warns people of deceptions, however since Jesus said that the gates of Hell would not prevail against it, we can know some in every century learnt the truth to this day! ” title=”Wink” />
So then your position is that the OT is all we need? Okay, glad we got that cleared up! For a second there I thought you meant we needed the New Testament as well! Silly me. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
Hey silly you, I don’t recall ever saying that, but if one had only the old Testament – which also points to Jesus as He said in Luke 24:27 – [color=darkred:2drhz6s7][b:2drhz6s7]And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.[/b:2drhz6s7][/color:2drhz6s7] then you would still have enought to know.
As for what the Bible lacks; It lacks an interpreter. No book interprets itself. Period. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
Opening the Book up would help you a lot.
So then only those who are saved can read the Bible and learn how to be saved. Seems like a useless book to me. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
From your answers, you have me convinced that’s certainly how you do feel.
I am not talking about that. I’m talking about 2 Tim 3:16-17 where he says the OLD Testament is *useful* for the man of God to do good works. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
the old and new – both are relevant to today – I think you are adding to Scriptures for it says: 16 [b:2drhz6s7][color=darkred:2drhz6s7]All[/color:2drhz6s7] [/b:2drhz6s7][color=darkred:2drhz6s7]Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work[/color:2drhz6s7]
[quote:2drhz6s7]First off, no, I didn’t predict baseball that well this year, but secondly, dude those were joke predictions. You did see that the Athletics lost to the Twins… and then I had them losing to the Yankees, right? It was supposed to be funny that I had the A’s losing twice. Apparently you missed it, heh. [/quote:2drhz6s7]
Actually who really cares about baseball aside from a little entertainment.