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In the Greek James 2:26 is not “soul” but “spirit” (“pneumatos” meaning Spirit, or spirit). This is very different.

In Biblical Hebrew soul is nephesh which is best translated into English as “life” or “vital breath”. Based on the Hebrew Bible it seems that the soul is alive when the child breaths. Thus Rabbinic Judiasm finds their conclusions differently than the Catholic Church.

[quote:3o92mhyd]I care nothing for Jewish law on the matter. The case against abortion can be made entirely from natural law or it can be made from Christian theology. [/quote:3o92mhyd]

Natural law is dictated by humankind. Jewish law was given by God to Israel. Chrisitans have much to learn and still use from Jewish law even though we are not under the Law. Paul said that the Law revealed sin. This does not have anything to do with abortion though of course, but the Law is not invalid. Christ fulfilled the Law, not abolished it.

I suppose I said my rationality did _____ because I am a student of OT. In the back of my mind I still take the verse from Exodus that I cited very seriously, far more serious than Tertullian. I’m not saying Tertullian is wrong, I’m just saying that the Exodus passage must compell us to look more into the matter than what Tertullian suggested. His works are not canonical.

The objections raised using Christ and John the Baptist in the womb could possibly be anthromorophisms or expressions to clue the reader into JEsus’ apprehension by the Holy Spirit. God can know anything before birth, of course God know Jeremiah before he was born, but does that prove something?