[quote:3q76mayn]Before we even get into the monolithic dialogue of salvation we need to tackle down our understandings of [b:3q76mayn]”it is finished”[/b:3q76mayn]. Fred had given Ron Scott Hahn’s explanation of it but I think he missed it or didn’t read it. If your understanding is correct Ron then why did God have to ressurect? There would be no need for it if is was finished. But let’s say you are correct, what was completed? Please be very clear.

~Victor[/quote:3q76mayn]

Well Victor, in not so plain english Jesus resurrected to defeat the death penalty for sin, to show He is/was God and to enable us (believers) then to be able to resurrect as well. Jesus came like 2 Corinthians 5:21 says
“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” He became our substitution, our propitiation at Calvary thus cleansing whosoever believes in Him.

Thus by His Stripes we are healed Isaiah 53:5

In other words He cleanses, purchased, bought, redeemed, anyone who trusts His finished work at Calvary with His Blood.[color=darkred:3q76mayn][b:3q76mayn][i:3q76mayn]
1 Peter 1:18-“Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:”[/i:3q76mayn][/b:3q76mayn][/color:3q76mayn]

This is all clearly said in Scriptures, not by anything we do- the sin issue was addressed and conquered nearly 2000 years ago, by His death not by our attaining growth or virtues or graces through sacraments. If sacraments did it, then we could boast about our attaining grace depending upon how often we partook of them.
Ron

I’ve seen much of Scott Hahn materials but who is he that we should take his view over what God says in His Word?