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Yes, ok, I know what you mean, yes, they offer some good classes and programs, I have heard they are very good, I have had little chance to go to many as I have four kids and my husband works a shift schedule so he has some really weird hours and it is so hard to find a babysitter for four kids, next to impossible and these things at church rarely if ever offer child care but once my children are older I’m going to take full advantage of everything that comes up because some of the programs they offer look really interesting, I want to for sure go to a marriage encounter, that sound so neat :mrgreen: