[quote:2mvp0yyh]Lionel]Wednesday, December 28, 2011
[b:2mvp0yyh]MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGIS TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION USES A MANTRA LINKED TO LUCIFER [/b:2mvp0yyh]
[i:2mvp0yyh]Hirim is a word known to Freemasonary and is associated with Satan according to Fr. Siano F.I in the recent issue of the weekly Il Settimanale di Padre Pio. Hirim is mentioned in the official list of mantras of Transcendental Meditation.[/i:2mvp0yyh]
I was reading an article on Freemasonary in the magazine Il Settimanale di Padre Pio. It mentions a name for Lucifer. This article is one of a series on the same subject. The word ‘hiram’ is connected with Satan. The word seemed familiar to me.I was wondering if it was the same word used as a mantra in Maharishi Mahesh Yogis Transcendental Meditation.[/quote:2mvp0yyh]
Hello Lionel,

Hirim is not a biblical word.

Hi’ram, King of Tyre, friend of both David and Solomon,

The name means Consecration

[u:2mvp0yyh]2Sa 5:11[/u:2mvp0yyh] And Hiram king of Tyre sent messengers to David, and cedar trees, also carpenters and masons who built David a house.

1Ki 5:1 Now Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants to Solomon, when he heard that they had anointed him king in place of his father; for Hiram always loved David

[u:2mvp0yyh] Hiram a man[/u:2mvp0yyh] of eminence and the [b:2mvp0yyh]principle architect [/b:2mvp0yyh]sent by king Hiram to Solomon

[u:2mvp0yyh]Ki 7:13[/u:2mvp0yyh] And King Solomon sent and brought Hiram from Tyre.
[u:2mvp0yyh]1Ki 7:14[/u:2mvp0yyh] He was the son of a widow of the tribe of Naph’tali, and his father was a man of Tyre, a worker in bronze; and he was full of wisdom, understanding, and skill, for making any work in bronze. He came to King Solomon, and did all his work.

I’m not sticking up for ‘free masonry,’ But Hiram may be the architect and not satan, there was a king of Tyre who later was said to have the evil spirit of satan:

[u:2mvp0yyh]Eze 28:12[/u:2mvp0yyh] “Son of man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord GOD: “You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
[u:2mvp0yyh]Eze 28:13[/u:2mvp0yyh] You were in Eden, the garden of God…

[u:2mvp0yyh]Eze 28:15[/u:2mvp0yyh] You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you…

[u:2mvp0yyh]Eze 28:18[/u:2mvp0yyh] By the multitude of your iniquities, in the unrighteousness of your trade you profaned your sanctuaries; so I brought forth fire from the midst of you; it consumed you, and I turned you to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all who saw you.

and

Isa 14:12 “How you are fallen from heaven, [b:2mvp0yyh]O Day Star[/b:2mvp0yyh], son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!

Isa 14:13 You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north;

2Cr 11:14 And no wonder, for even [b:2mvp0yyh]Satan disguises himself[/b:2mvp0yyh] as [u:2mvp0yyh]an angel of light.[/u:2mvp0yyh]

But Masonry like your T.M. tolerates your beliefs til?

Masonry is willing to humor those brethren who go along with the local and tribal cults so long as they realize that the sectarian doctrines of these cults are simply necessary
evils. Pike explains:

But Masonry teaches, and has preserved in their purity, the cardinal tenets of the old primitive faith, which underlie and are the foundation of all religion. All that ever existed have had a basis of truth; and all have overlaid that truth with errors . . . Masonry is the universal morality which is suitable to the inhabitants of every clime, to
the man of every creed. [Albert Pike, <Morals and Dogma>, p. 161]

[quote:2mvp0yyh]Lionel,
One of the mantras given out is hirim.

Fr. Siano F.I an Italian priest with the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate(F.I) has done studies on Freemasonary and he shows in well referenced articles their link with Satan. Last Sunday at the Church Santa Maria di Annunziata in Rome I browsed through the recent issue of Il Settimanale di Padre Pio which I read regularly. Again Fr. Siano mentions the word hiram and Lucifer in the headlines of the article.

I recall on my teachers training course the German instructor saying that the mantras are meaningless words but they have a value at another level of consciousness.[/quote:2mvp0yyh]
I agree with
[quote:2mvp0yyh]L.A.Robert
There are many groups that seek converts by at least initially telling people that they are a Philosophy of life and can practice their own religion and the new Philosophy side by side. One other group that comes to mind is the Soka Gakki, who tell you that you can chant their mantara and practice your old religion, but slowly isolate you to their group alone.[/quote:2mvp0yyh]
Masonry is not about the Gospels, It’s enlightenment through their teachings, seems like a form of ‘Gnosticism’ to me.

T.M comes from Buddhism, hindu ideas.. all self enlightenment. Outside of Christ.

Christianity= Only Jesus Christ can change our nature.

It’s always been my feeling to meditate on the Scriptures, that has brought me to deeper meaning.

Chanting things I don’t understand? Kinda like ‘speaking in tongues’ I see no value in it, groaning in the spirit

Christians groan, because we see both the limitations of this body and superiority of the body to come. We are earnestly desiring our new bodies!

Rom 8:23 and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. (also 2Cor 5:2).

[quote:2mvp0yyh]Lionel, On the teachers training program I was not allowed to go for Mass on Sunday. Privately I would oftenpray my rosary.

I am aware that TM has opened my unconscious to realms in which I have to protect myself daily with praying the rosary, going for daily Mass and not sinning.[/quote:2mvp0yyh]
Not allowing to attend Mass, what were your thoughts @ the time?
Thank God you prayed the Rosary, when we pray the Rosary we pray the Gospels, possibly prayer kept you from falling away.

then again Eastern Religions Reject the infallibility of accepted scripture: Teachings should not be accepted unless they are borne out by our experience and are praised by the wise

I’ve been torn against the RCC myself only to eventually find my way back…

Yes we can open doors in the spiritual realm which greatly affects us here. Even in praying over people we can take on their demons.

[quote:2mvp0yyh]Our Lady was with me constantly. She did not leave me.

Lionel Andrades
Catholic layman
Former Teacher of Maharishi Mahesh Yogis Transcendental Meditation[/quote:2mvp0yyh]
Amen! How do you feel about teaching others to meditate on Scripture? I can’t do it often, usually it takes 20 minutes of just plain quiet for me to fall into meditation, but when I did it was a generally a good experience because I was reflecting on Scripture.

God bless,
John