A lot of people are asking about Transcendental Meditation and if it is okay for Catholics to use this practice. Well, someone in our forums is actually a former practitioner and he is warning Catholics to beware. If you want to meditate using a mantra as a Catholic it’s best to use a mantra that is centered on Jesus. You could also do something like mindfulness meditation which usually consists of focusing your attention on your breath or something like that rather than using religious mantras. That being said, the Catholic Church has such a rich tradition of prayer you really don’t need to look anywhere else.
- Jesus, I trust in You.
- Lord Jesus, have mercy on me.
- I love you Jesus
- Thank you Jesus
- Praise Jesus
- Holy, holy, holy
Whether or not this warning is completely true, why not just focus on Jesus?
This one is from our forums: Wednesday, December 28, 2011
MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGIS TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION USES A MANTRA LINKED TO LUCIFER
Hirim is a word known to Freemasonary and is associated with Satan according to Fr. Siano F.I in the recent issue of the weekly Il Settimanale di Padre Pio. Hirim is mentioned in the official list of mantras of Transcendental Meditation.
I was reading an article on Freemasonary in the magazine Il Settimanale di Padre Pio. It mentions a name for Lucifer. This article is one of a series on the same subject. The word ‘hiram’ is connected with Satan. The word seemed familiar to me.I was wondering if it was the same word used as a mantra in Maharishi Mahesh Yogis Transcendental Meditation.
I was a teacher of Transcendental Meditation(TM) and completed a five months course for teachers at Pattaya, Thailand. We had to sign a document saying that we would keep the mantras secret . The mantras are given out according to a persons age. When someone would come to learn TM they would have to fill a form with personal details. They would be asked their age.Then according to their age I would give them the mantra during the ritual of initiation the puja.
Many of the TMers I knew were Freemasons and members of the Theopsophical Society, which projects itself as a liberal,open minded, tolerant organisation but it is evil and their members hate the Catholic Church.
Last night I checked the list of mantras of Transcendental Meditation at an internet shop. The mantras are no longer a secret. I found the list of TM mantras. It is the same list which I used as a TM teacher
One of the mantras given out is hirim.
Fr. Siano F.I an Italian priest with the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate(F.I) has done studies on Freemasonary and he shows in well referenced articles their link with Satan. Last Sunday at the Church Santa Maria di Annunziata in Rome I browsed through the recent issue of Il Settimanale di Padre Pio which I read regularly. Again Fr. Siano mentions the word hiram and Lucifer in the headlines of the article.
I recall on my teachers training course the German instructor saying that the mantras are meaningless words but they have a value at another level of consciousness.
I recall seeing a video on the course in which Maharishi is asked his opinion about a person’s strange actions. He is told that perhaps the spirit who is in that meditator prefers to act likewise.
In another video Maharishi also praised a meditator who had experiences which definitiely were related to a Hindu deity and the realm linked to the deity.It was not Christian.
I am aware that TM has opened my unconscious to realms in which I have to protect myself daily with praying the rosary, going for daily Mass and not sinning.
Here is the list of the mantras with the word hirim.
Official Mantra List in the Practice of Transcendental Meditation:
The mantra I used wasshirim.
When I was learning the advanced TM technique the TM-Sidhi program and I had not started ‘hopping’ I informed my teacher naively that I was praying for success. This made him extremely angry. He thought I would never ever learn the advanced meditation technique.
This was all a long time back before I went to Medugorje in the mid 90’s. The other TM teacher once realized that I was being lost to the TM Movement, even though at that time I did not know it, she said that I should beware that a lot of people are praying for me and they want me to leave TM. I thought it was odd that she would make that remark.Since it was so uncharachteristic of her. I was wondering what was the source of her knowledge which made her make that remark.
Many years later when I was talking to my bishop he mentioned casually at dinner that it is only after we die that we will realize who had been praying and making sacrifices for us. I laughed I knew he was hinting at me.
Our Lady was with me constantly. She did not leave me.
Former Teacher of Maharishi Mahesh Yogis Transcendental Meditation
Thank you for your posting. There are many groups that seek converts by at least initially telling people that they are a Philosophy of life and can practice their own religion and the new Philosophy side by side. One other group that comes to mind is the Soka Gakki, who tell you that you can chant their mantara and practice your old religion, but slowly isolate you to their group alone.
TM and Yogic courses, as well as some Quasi Buddhist groups will approach and rob you of your faith by slowly engaging you, until they control your life.
LARobert I agree with you.
Today morning as I was walking near the Vatican on one of the side streets there were so many posters on meditation (Meditazione).A Buddhist teacher will come to Rome as he does every year to teach simple techniques of meditation.
The poster says the courses are free and one can learn how to relax and improve all areas of life and discover the Self.
This disovering of the Self is not a Catholic teaching and it is commone to the Orient.
Also in the later stages one will have to accept other philosophy from the religion of this meditation teacher dressed like a Buddhist monk.
Soon one will have to accept reincarnation and reject the Catholic concept of Heaven and Hell which exists for all eternity.
Also one would have to reject the possibility of being in contact with demons or other entities and that this is not the Self.
Hirim is not a biblical word.
Hi’ram, King of Tyre, friend of both David and Solomon,
The name means Consecration
2Sa 5:11 And Hiram king of Tyre sent messengers to David, and cedar trees, also carpenters and masons who built David a house.
1Ki 5:1 Now Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants to Solomon, when he heard that they had anointed him king in place of his father; for Hiram always loved David
Hiram a man of eminence and the principle architect sent by king Hiram to Solomon
Ki 7:13 And King Solomon sent and brought Hiram from Tyre.
1Ki 7:14 He was the son of a widow of the tribe of Naph’tali, and his father was a man of Tyre, a worker in bronze; and he was full of wisdom, understanding, and skill, for making any work in bronze. He came to King Solomon, and did all his work.
I’m not sticking up for ‘free masonry,’ But Hiram may be the architect and not satan, there was a king of Tyre who later was said to have the evil spirit of satan:
Eze 28:12 “Son of man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord GOD: “You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God…
Eze 28:15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you…
Eze 28:18 By the multitude of your iniquities, in the unrighteousness of your trade you profaned your sanctuaries; so I brought forth fire from the midst of you; it consumed you, and I turned you to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all who saw you.
Isa 14:12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!
Isa 14:13 You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north;
2Cr 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
But Masonry like your T.M. tolerates your beliefs til?
Masonry is willing to humor those brethren who go along with the local and tribal cults so long as they realize that the sectarian doctrines of these cults are simply necessary
evils. Pike explains:
But Masonry teaches, and has preserved in their purity, the cardinal tenets of the old primitive faith, which underlie and are the foundation of all religion. All that ever existed have had a basis of truth; and all have overlaid that truth with errors . . . Masonry is the universal morality which is suitable to the inhabitants of every clime, to
the man of every creed. [Albert Pike, <Morals and Dogma>, p. 161]
Masonry is not about the Gospels, It’s enlightenment through their teachings, seems like a form of ‘Gnosticism’ to me.
T.M comes from Buddhism, hindu ideas.. all self enlightenment. Outside of Christ.
Christianity= Only Jesus Christ can change our nature.
It’s always been my feeling to meditate on the Scriptures, that has brought me to deeper meaning.
Chanting things I don’t understand? Kinda like ‘speaking in tongues’ I see no value in it, groaning in the spirit
Christians groan, because we see both the limitations of this body and superiority of the body to come. We are earnestly desiring our new bodies!
Rom 8:23 and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. (also 2Cor 5:2).
Not allowing to attend Mass, what were your thoughts @ the time?
Thank God you prayed the Rosary, when we pray the Rosary we pray the Gospels, possibly prayer kept you from falling away.
then again Eastern Religions Reject the infallibility of accepted scripture: Teachings should not be accepted unless they are borne out by our experience and are praised by the wise
I’ve been torn against the RCC myself only to eventually find my way back…
Yes we can open doors in the spiritual realm which greatly affects us here. Even in praying over people we can take on their demons.
Amen! How do you feel about teaching others to meditate on Scripture? I can’t do it often, usually it takes 20 minutes of just plain quiet for me to fall into meditation, but when I did it was a generally a good experience because I was reflecting on Scripture.