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    A statistic which I am sure some of you are familiar with but I only jsut discovered, which I find mind-blowing…

    The divorce rate amongst couples who practice contraception is about %50 (alright, so THAT’S not mind-blowing)

    The rate of divorce among those who practice NFP is [i:3um02qwu]below %5 percent![/i:3um02qwu]

    Thoughts?

    #4575

    Victor
    Member

    I’ve heard of this before. Although I’ve never put enougth thought into the reasons as to why one is higher then the other. Anybody know why?

    ~Victor

    #4577

    Because contraception is an evil which hurts not only marriage but lfie in general, while NFP is not? Seems to work for me.

    #4578

    Jackie O
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    It’s really hard to pinpoint causality. Are people getting divorced only because of the contracepive use? Probably not. Are people staying married because of NFP? This might be part of the reason, but I bet it’s not the whole reason. Perhaps people who practice NFP share a different kind of committment to eachother? It’s hard to make a judgement on such a large body of people.

    #4579

    Oh, I know. Obviously there are many reasons, but with a discrepancy THAT BIG obviously it isn’t just a coincidence!

    #4589

    Anonymous

    okay someday someone (steph?jon?,family? come and walk me thru how to quote someone, put my little finger on the correct buttons, so I can actually watch and feel how it happens—-remedial computer whew!)

    Anyways I think Jackie mentioned the other C. word, one is contraception but the other is COMMITTMENT. (sp?) This is why there is a high failure in those marriages where the couple co-habited before marriage. Even though they think they are being practical—by trying out marriage they have no committment to the sacrament of marriage.

    I think I understand this firsthand. In the 70’s I bought into the whole lie of contraception


    and my own mother suggested that she would feel better if her own kids ‘tried out’ marriage by living together first. ( She was a teen age bride and mom) . This kind of advice certainly made sense to me, because I saw the difficulty of unplanned pregnancies and of very poor marriages. To make a long story short; I am glad that my husband did not take me up on the suggestion that we ‘live together’ I am glad God stuck with us and our marriage even when we were so slow to do things His Way.

    #4594

    Siberian
    Member

    Could this statistic be due to the fact that the divorce rate of Christians/Catholics is along the same lines as the NFP and non-believers the same line as those who use contraception? Having God in the picture sure as heck helps any marriage out 100%… Could be something that the NFP share in common.

    #4597

    Most Christians contracept. It’s sad but true.

    #4599

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    [quote:3a07xupw]Could this statistic be due to the fact that the divorce rate of Christians/Catholics is along the same lines as the NFP and non-believers the same line as those who use contraception?[/quote:3a07xupw]
    Not sure if I read you correctly, but the divorce rate among U.S. Catholics is that same as the rest of the country. Catholic marriages are not synonymous with NFP.

    #4604

    [quote:h3jgw5mi][quote:h3jgw5mi]Could this statistic be due to the fact that the divorce rate of Christians/Catholics is along the same lines as the NFP and non-believers the same line as those who use contraception?[/quote:h3jgw5mi]
    Not sure if I read you correctly, but the divorce rate among U.S. Catholics is that same as the rest of the country. Catholic marriages are not synonymous with NFP.[/quote:h3jgw5mi]

    That always depresses me… Catholicism in the U.S. is so incredibly un-devout.

    #4612

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    [quote:s4etyc2i]That always depresses me… Catholicism in the U.S. is so incredibly un-devout.[/quote:s4etyc2i]
    U.S., Canada, Europe, Australia….

    #4619

    Well, I guess I should change my statement to “alleged Catholics are really undevout”

    Because if you are REALLY a Catholic than it means that you at least TRY to follow the Church’s teachings. Obviously we all have faults, but so many jsut ignore or try to explain away the Church’s teachings. I have even herd the argument that you can use contraception because the Pope never infallibly declared it to be wrong!

    #4624

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    Well, isn’t it just human nature to rationalize certain behaviors even if we have a guilty conscience?

    #4631

    Definitely, although I still think saying that because the Pope has never infallibly defined contraception is wrong that its OKAY is a little despicable…

    #4693

    Siberian
    Member

    Maybe changing the topic, but what Jon said…

    [quote:22ctm8hu]Well, isn’t it just human nature to rationalize certain behaviors even if we have a guilty conscience?
    [/quote:22ctm8hu]

    All of us are guilty of this in our own ways. Think back to the last time you were in your vehicle… do you remember telling yourself that 5 mph over the speedlimit is alright, the cops wont pull you over… fact of the matter is you are disregarding the law, which in fact is dissobeying God because in the Word it says to respect the authority that God has placed in your life. Therefore I see using contraception and justifying it as no worse that going 5mph over the speedlimit. Both are wrong and I agree both should not be done. But you cant call someone undevout because they rationalize one thing in their mind to try and cure their concience. Otherwise we would all be undevout speeders <img src=” title=”Very Happy” />

    Siberian

    #4695

    Not exactly a good example. Often, going five miles over the speed limit is NECESSARY, because you could potentially cause more damage by “following the law” than by “breaking it”.

    Also, it is not a sin to break the speed limit. It simply isn’t. It is a MORTAL sin to contracept.

    #4697

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    [quote:30msmkuy]do you remember telling yourself that 5 mph over the speedlimit is alright, the cops wont pull you over…[/quote:30msmkuy]
    5, 10, 15… pick one ha ha ha :lol:

    [quote:30msmkuy]Not exactly a good example. Often, going five miles over the speed limit is NECESSARY, because you could potentially cause more damage by “following the law” than by “breaking it”.[/quote:30msmkuy]
    I do and I don’t agree, but I know what you mean. <img src=” title=”Smile” />

    [quote:30msmkuy]Also, it is not a sin to break the speed limit. It simply isn’t. It is a MORTAL sin to contracept.[/quote:30msmkuy]
    That’s debateable. The point Siberian brought up was a good one. We are to respect the authority over us and that means respecting the law of the land. The teaching of the 4th Commandment in the Catechism tells us that “Honor your father and mother” goes beyond familial authority. The expanded teaching on the commandment is to respect all authority over us. So, one could argue that by breaking the speed limit you are breaking a Commandment. <img src=” title=”Wink” />

    #4701

    If I start confessing that I broke the speed limit by 1 MPH, my priest would tell me to stop being overscrupulous.

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