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May 29, 2006 at 11:16 pm #1262AnonymousInactive
If you were to hand out bibles to the homeless or prisoners, which bible would you give them? Please be specific. ” title=”Smile” />
May 30, 2006 at 1:07 am #6332AnonymousInactiveGideon’s New Testament. Simple, full of new Christian information, lots of help contained within. No heavy theology, simple Christian truths. Plus its free! ” title=”Very Happy” />
May 30, 2006 at 2:04 am #6338AnonymousInactiveMy only objection to the Gideon New Testament (I carry one in my back pocket and another in my backpack) is what is pre-printed on the inside back cover. Technically, it is all true even from a Catholic viewpoint but the presentation is seriously misleading in that it implies justification is a one-time event (and, to an extent, OSAS).
Otherwise, it is none too bad a translation.
May 30, 2006 at 2:36 am #6340About Catholics TeamKeymasterMy problem with the Gideon New Testament is just that…it’s only half the story.
May 30, 2006 at 1:54 pm #6345AnonymousInactiveThe OT is not superceded by the NT but it clearly doesn’t portray the Gospel in the light the NT does. Alot of understanding is needed to grasp the message of the OT, as an OT graduate I can say it’s very difficult. Can a bum understand covenant theology and the theology of original sin, herem, etc.? Maybe. Can a bum understand that Christ was God’s son who died for humankind? Definately, whether he or she agrees or not they will understand that to be the message of the NT. The Gideon’s use the NT as a primary evangelism tool for a reason. The stories of Jesus and the Apostles is well known to most Western people, despite their faith. The OT for me is the most intriguing, why? because it is so unbelievably full of mystery. Say what one will, but the NT is going to bring the road to salvation more efficiently. The OT can be learned later to explain the mysteries of faith, the origins of the Christian faith, etc., etc… And this must of course be done.
May 30, 2006 at 1:55 pm #6346AnonymousInactiveso what would you give?
June 2, 2006 at 4:42 pm #6414AnonymousInactiveIs the Gideon Bible a Catholic Bible?
June 2, 2006 at 8:30 pm #6416About Catholics TeamKeymaster[quote:2vetrsjv]Is the Gideon Bible a Catholic Bible?[/quote:2vetrsjv]
Nope.June 2, 2006 at 9:23 pm #6417AnonymousInactive[quote:3qlsb6f5][quote:3qlsb6f5]Is the Gideon Bible a Catholic Bible?[/quote:3qlsb6f5]
Nope.[/quote:3qlsb6f5]Jon, if you were to hand out bibles to the homeless or prisoners, which bible would you give them?
June 2, 2006 at 9:30 pm #6418AnonymousInactiveI’d give the one I have – the Franciscans [b:1x4i3sid]Capuchinhos[/b:1x4i3sid] Friars version (in Portuguese of course), simply called [b:1x4i3sid]¬´B??blia dos Capuchinhos¬ª[/b:1x4i3sid]. A very good one indeed, directly translated from Hebrew and Greek to Portuguese by some of our fine bibliologists.
June 2, 2006 at 9:38 pm #6419About Catholics TeamKeymaster[quote:vc2k96im]Jon, if you were to hand out bibles to the homeless or prisoners, which bible would you give them?[/quote:vc2k96im]
I’m not really sure I would give them any. I’d rather give them a direct service first.Homeless people need shelter, food and water before a Bible.
June 2, 2006 at 10:15 pm #6420AnonymousInactive[quote:2qs3whsl][quote:2qs3whsl]Jon, if you were to hand out bibles to the homeless or prisoners, which bible would you give them?[/quote:2qs3whsl]
I’m not really sure I would give them any. I’d rather give them a direct service first.Homeless people need shelter, food and water before a Bible.[/quote:2qs3whsl]
Well, they are actually at a shelter. They have food and water. The place is called, “Churches United for the Homeless” and the homeless stay there.
June 3, 2006 at 5:21 am #6421AnonymousInactiveThe RSVCE is pretty good. It is a dynamic translation, so it is easy to understand, but it is also a faithful translation (CE stands for Catholic Edition so you get a better rendition of verses like Luke 1:28 as well as all the Deuterocanonicals).
Just remember that a Bible alone is only halfway there.
Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him. Acts 8:30-31
June 3, 2006 at 6:20 am #6422About Catholics TeamKeymaster[quote:2lrcgzpn]Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him. Acts 8:30-31[/quote:2lrcgzpn]
Now that’s some pretty good evidence against interpreting the Bible for oneself.June 3, 2006 at 1:20 pm #6423AnonymousInactive[quote:15vxah2o]The RSVCE is pretty good. It is a dynamic translation, so it is easy to understand, but it is also a faithful translation (CE stands for Catholic Edition so you get a better rendition of verses like Luke 1:28 as well as all the Deuterocanonicals).
Just remember that a Bible alone is only halfway there.
Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” He replied, “How can I, unless someone instructs me?” So he invited Philip to get in and sit with him. Acts 8:30-31[/quote:15vxah2o]
Thanks for your help. I’ll check out that RSVCE that you talked about Benedict. I’ll try to bring these people to the church as best I can. Thanks again. ” title=”Wink” />
June 3, 2006 at 1:24 pm #6424AnonymousInactivehmm, it seems the general feedback is that the bible is not enough in of itself for witness, I fully agree. It is actually quite easy to just hand out Bibles like tracts and it is another thing altogether to take others through Church and explain things to them. Good point Benedict, I never thought of that passage in relation to witness before.
June 3, 2006 at 1:40 pm #6425AnonymousInactiveI sure wish I had the time to take these people to Church and explian things to them. There are many homeless out there. I am sorry if I offended anyone on this topic. I hope at least giving these people a bible will help in some way because I can only do so much. I do lots of other things for the homeless as well but I don’t need to boast about them nor do I need to defend myself on this subject anymore. This will be my last post. Peace be with you all and God bless.
June 3, 2006 at 2:46 pm #6426About Catholics TeamKeymasterBernardine, you could always try to organize a Bible study. With the Scriptures people need instruction. If you can’t take them to church, bring church to them. ” title=”Smile” />
June 3, 2006 at 9:13 pm #6427AnonymousInactive[quote:28vfbegz]Bernardine, you could always try to organize a Bible study. With the Scriptures people need instruction. If you can’t take them to church, bring church to them. ” title=”Smile” />[/quote:28vfbegz]
I know I said that would be my last post but oh well. ” title=”Very Happy” /> But that’s exactly what I plan on doing Jon. I am going to [b:28vfbegz]them[/b:28vfbegz] to preach the word of God(to the best of my ability) and I just want the best translation they can get the most out of. That’s all.
June 3, 2006 at 9:17 pm #6428About Catholics TeamKeymasterYou don’t mean last post for good, do you?
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