March 8, 2004 at 4:47 am #761
So, there have been a lot of issues lately that it [i:ikh8dstb]seems[/i:ikh8dstb] people are either on side or the other. These 2 viewpoints seem what are traditionally called the right and the left (conservative and liberal respectively).
Promotion of issues such as gay marriage, abortion, etc. are opposed by the right and hailed as wonderful by the left. But the left always accuse the right as making things a religious issue. Because I am Christian and I do not support abortion and Christianity is known not to favor abortion immediately I am making it a religious issue some would argue. And we can’t have that! For some reason if the state supported my view then we would be supporting one particular religious view and that’s against the American way!
To me this is just ridiculous. I could just as well have a religion that supports abortion and I could speak out against the pro-life movement, but I would never be accused of making it a religious issue. How does this work? ” title=”Confused” />
Why can’t Christian people promote ideas and values be taken simply as another viewpoint? I think people blind themselves when they become disillusioned with the notion that something is a religious issue and want no part in it.
I will leave you with a quote from an interview I just read online:
[quote:ikh8dstb][b:ikh8dstb]Q:[/b:ikh8dstb] Likewise, should Christians seek to push their political agenda in the courts, or would winning further undermine the democratic process and serve as a Pyrrhic victory?
[b:ikh8dstb]Garnett:[/b:ikh8dstb] In my view, this is a difficult prudential question. Christians, like everyone else, have a right to try to pursue and promote the common good, as they understand it, through politics and policy. It is not so much a matter of imposing a sectarian agenda as it is proposing certain claims about human flourishing, civil society and the common good to fellow citizens.
In the context of litigation and “in the courts,” I do not believe that presenting legal arguments in defense of the traditional definition of marriage should be equated with pushing a political or sectarian agenda. [/quote:ikh8dstb]March 9, 2004 at 4:21 am #2614
Wow, okay Jon. Now you got me really thinking on this post. I’m certainly going to kick this one around awhile.
Thanks for this post.
SMarch 12, 2004 at 3:59 pm #2644
Here’s another quote that supports what I am saying taken from this opinion piece: http://www.americandaily.com/item/5085
[quote:1cxsa09e]There are many things you can do in America today. You can bash Christianity and Christians. You can accuse Mel Gibson of anti-Semitism for making a film about Jesus. You can actively ridicule believers till the cows come home and you will still be called tolerant. But if you espouse a belief in Christ? Man then you are a nutty zealot trying to trample the separation of church and state. [/quote:1cxsa09e]March 18, 2004 at 5:15 am #2711
you have hit the nail right on the head with that quote. It is so very frustrating
all the more reason to take it to the Lord in prayer.March 29, 2005 at 4:02 am #4002
Well said, been thinking about this myself. Quick story.
I got caught in a situation at work where my boss asked me what I thought about X and X issue in politics. I told him and he replied “well said and you made good points”. Somewhere along our conversation I said something (don’t remember what ” title=”Neutral” /> ) that gave him an inkling that I was “religious” as he put it. Boy did the tables turn. My points were suddenly not “good points” and what I said was not “well said” any longer.
Am I missing something?
As if he didn’t have a secular bias. I just don’t get these people.
~VictorMarch 29, 2005 at 4:38 am #4004
Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with people’s misperception of what a particular religion has to say about something. These people just don’t want to be labeled a nut or zealot so they shun anything that seems remotely associated with that.
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