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May 25, 2006 at 4:57 pm #6294
[quote:npi39or0]You cannot get into purgatory unless you are already on the way to heaven. Everyone who enters purgatory is destined to enter heaven.[/quote:npi39or0]
This is a good point. I think this is often overlooked when people are trying to explain or understand purgatory. It’s not a 3rd bonus option that the Catholic Church made up…it’s a logical step right before heaven so that nothing unclean will enter.May 26, 2006 at 12:45 am #6296AnonymousInactive
Herkman, This is about as simple as I can explain it.Our belief(Catholic) is when a person dies one cannot enter the kingdom or heaven with a spot of sin on ones soul(God said that),so therefore one has to have his soul purged of any sin not mortal(that’s a direct path to hell). Purgetory is not a PLACE but seperation from God’s love and one would stay there for various links of time(according to your sins). I gather your not Catholic and do not beleive in are beliefs(which is ok) but that’s the way it is.May 29, 2006 at 3:44 pm #6311AnonymousInactive
Purgatory is a GRACE. It is a real place whether you believe it or not.May 29, 2006 at 5:07 pm #6316
[quote:382kzgmx]It is a real place whether you believe it or not.[/quote:382kzgmx]
Place or state of being? IIRC even the Catechism describes heaven and hell as states of being of complete unification with or the complete abesence of God respectively.May 29, 2006 at 10:00 pm #6323AnonymousInactive
Yes. Purgatory is a state of being. I shouldn’t have said “place”. Thanks for the correction. And I’m not sure if I totally grasp “state of being”. What exactly does that mean?May 29, 2006 at 10:24 pm #6325
Well, on earth we have physical bodies that reside somewhere but souls aren’t physical, tangible objects.
Hell is the state where the soul is completely devoid of God and heaven is the complete unification with God. Earth is somewhere in between. That’s the best I can explain it.May 30, 2006 at 1:46 am #6336AnonymousInactive
Wow, heaven sounds awesome.May 30, 2006 at 2:09 am #6339AnonymousInactive
Theosis is a heavy topic but if you want to learn more, this article[/url:2ea8j0yt] is by my friend Catholic-Cadet and it was my introduction.May 30, 2006 at 8:17 pm #6359AnonymousInactive
Thanks for the article Benedict.June 5, 2006 at 12:34 am #6447AnonymousInactive
Purgatory is a place where souls become perfected. Since God is perfect, souls should be in a clean state before being physically with God. Luckily, unlike Hell, purgatory is not eternal. The length of time spent in purgatory is individualized, but we will be with God when we’re finished.
Purgatory may be as long as centuries in the case of the more guilty souls, or of those who, being excluded from the Catholic communion, are deprived of the suffrages of the Church, although by the divine mercy they have escaped Hell. If you read about Mary in Fatima, she was asked if an 18 year old girl was in Heaven – Mary said she would be in purgatory until the end of time.
When we’re alive, we can change our fate. By prayers, especially the Rosary, being good, receiving the Eucharist, and helping others we can probably reduce our time in purgatory. It all comes down to how pure our soul is.
At the end of the world, purgatory also ends. God will reconcile His justice in the purification of the last members of humankind. Then God will make His final judgement of Heaven or Hell. This judgement will be permanent.June 12, 2006 at 9:34 pm #6486AnonymousInactive
Peace be with you all!
[quote:1squ9ht3]Could someone give me a couple of Bible verses about purgatory?[/quote:1squ9ht3]
Since you appear to profess what is written in signature, Sola scriptura , I doubt we will be able agree with many Catholic Doctrine or even some Protestant Doctrines. But, if you are [i:1squ9ht3][b:1squ9ht3]Truly[/b:1squ9ht3][/i:1squ9ht3] seeking truth, then here[/url:1squ9ht3] is an awesome explanation of Purgatory. As for Scriptural passages, I offer you these passages which help us to understand how the Church developed it teaching and understanding of Purgatory:
2 Sam 12:13-18
1 Corinthians 3:13-15
Matthew 12:32, 18:32-35
1 Peter 4:8
In conclusion I ask that you please show me where in Scripture there is a single teaching that says there is no such place as Purgatory. Further, I ask that you explain to me what the other place of purification by fire after death is, as referred to in some of the above listed Scriptures? I am willing to learn and always seeking the Truth!
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