January 27, 2008 at 5:32 pm #1786
I dont think to many Catholics go directly to heaven,because I think most people die with some type of venial sin. What our your thoughts on this?
Purgatory (Lat., “purgare”, to make clean, to purify) in accordance with Catholic teaching is a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God’s grace, are, not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the satisfaction due to their transgressions.January 27, 2008 at 11:23 pm #8743
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I just came home from Mass and I was thinking something along these lines.
If we can never be perfect, is it merely enough to acknowledge that we sin and do our best not to sin or do we need to be completely free of sin before we die?January 27, 2008 at 11:57 pm #8744
According to the Bible one cannot have a minute spot of sin on ones soul or you have to goto purgarory to get cleansed,but have saying the perfect at of contrition before one dies,they say that clears the pathway to heaven.January 28, 2008 at 12:22 am #8745
We are dealing with two different things here, one is sin, and the other are the effects of sin.
Adam and Eve sinned, they went directly against what they knew to be the will of God.
The effect is that they where punished by being cast out of the garden and the loss of the gifts beyond those we are given at birth. We are given natural gifts, preternatural and supernatural gifts from God. (As a review, angels have preternatural gifts, or those beyond human perfection but still limited)
So too when we sin, even when we are contrite and forgiven, we still have the effects of those sins. We must atone for those sins, or the guilt derived from the actions. We need supernatural assistance to do so, as the offence is against God, therefore we cannot simply say “I’m sorry, here I’m making up for it” but rather must unite our actions with the Action of Christ and His Passion and death on the cross. If that takes place to satisfy the punishment due to our own actions on earth, (ie through penance or the proper application of indulgences) we can “go straight to heaven” as it is not the usual course, we are alloted by God’s mercy a place where we can satisfy God’s justice and be cleansed, or made ready to meet him face to face. (On another thread we can discuss particular and general judgement.)February 4, 2008 at 5:29 am #8776
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To go straight to Heaven one has to be free from sin and from the temporal punishment due to all past and present sin.February 5, 2008 at 12:31 am #8777
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1394 As bodily nourishment restores lost strength, so the Eucharist strengthens our charity, which tends to be weakened in daily life; and this living charity[b:p2vmv6v6] wipes away venial sins[/b:p2vmv6v6]. By giving himself to us Christ revives our love and enables us to break our disordered attachments to creatures and root ourselves in him:
Since Christ died for us out of love, when we celebrate the memorial of his death at the moment of sacrifice we ask that love may be granted to us by the coming of the Holy Spirit. We humbly pray that in the strength of this love by which Christ willed to die for us, we, by receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit, may be able to consider the world as crucified for us, and to be ourselves as crucified to the world…. Having received the gift of love, let us die to sin and live for God.
1395 By the same charity that it enkindles in us, the Eucharist preserves us from future mortal sins. The more we share the life of Christ and progress in his friendship, the more difficult it is to break away from him by mortal sin. The Eucharist is not ordered to the forgiveness of mortal sins – that is proper to the sacrament of Reconciliation. The Eucharist is properly the sacrament of those who are in full communion with the Church.
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