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    Anonymous

    I am not even sure I have this society named correctly—-I became a Catholic after VaticanII. I understand that this group went against Papal instructions by allowing Latin Mass in dioceses where Bishops had forbade it. This group was excommunicated—-am I correct.

    In the news is that Pope Benedict is reaching out and possibly lifting the excommunication of this group.

    Any thoughts or further education about this news?

    #5416

    Victor
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    [quote:30f31oqm]I am not even sure I have this society named correctly—-I became a Catholic after VaticanII. I understand that this group went against Papal instructions by allowing Latin Mass in dioceses where Bishops had forbade it. This group was excommunicated—-am I correct.

    In the news is that Pope Benedict is reaching out and possibly lifting the excommunication of this group.

    Any thoughts or further education about this news?[/quote:30f31oqm]

    I am ignorant of this issue. I am curious to hear from the rest.

    ~Victor

    #5418

    [quote:3j44dnib]I am not even sure I have this society named correctly—-I became a Catholic after VaticanII.[/quote:3j44dnib]

    The official name is the Society of Saint Pis the Tenth. or, for short SSPX.

    [quote:3j44dnib]I understand that this group went against Papal instructions by allowing Latin Mass in dioceses where Bishops had forbade it. [/quote:3j44dnib]

    What happened was that Bishop le… well it was something like “febrevre” but I can’t pronounce it or spell it :oops: sry. lol Well anayway, what happened was that he didn’t too much like the whole Vatican II thing so he was doing ltos of stuff he wasn’t supposed to. However, the thing that got him excommunicated was not celebrating Mass or anythign like that. It was because he attempted to consecrate priests–and then Bishops–against the whill of the Pope. Because of this he and his followers were excommunicated.

    [quote:3j44dnib]This group was excommunicated—-am I correct.[/quote:3j44dnib]

    Indeed. Although it took a while.

    [quote:3j44dnib]In the news is that Pope Benedict is reaching out and possibly lifting the excommunication of this group. [/quote:3j44dnib] Ihadn’t heard this, actually. You have anywehre I can read about it? I can’t see him lifting the excommuncation unless they re-asserted their allegience the the Magisterium and the Pope. That was the problem in teh first place. Not that the ywere celebrating Mass incorrectly (the Latin Mass is entirely and completely and totally valid) but because Le Ferbeververkebr (lol) went deliberatly disobeyed the Pope.

    #5420

    Benedict
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    http://www.jimmyakin.org/2005/08/b16_to_heal_sch.html

    [quote:apb4ccrr]Not that the ywere celebrating Mass incorrectly (the Latin Mass is entirely and completely and totally valid[/quote:apb4ccrr]
    They were celebrating the Mass incorrectly. The Latin Mass may be valid, but by breaking away from their rightful bishops the priests of SSPX celebrated illicit masses.

    #5421

    [quote:1558f85i]http://www.jimmyakin.org/2005/08/b16_to_heal_sch.html

    [quote:1558f85i]Not that the ywere celebrating Mass incorrectly (the Latin Mass is entirely and completely and totally valid[/quote:1558f85i]
    They were celebrating the Mass incorrectly. The Latin Mass may be valid, but by breaking away from their rightful bishops the priests of SSPX celebrated illicit masses.[/quote:1558f85i]

    What I meant was, the FORM of the Mass was not the problem. It was that they were rebelling agaisnt authority. Now granted, the problem stemmed from the form of the Mass, but inherently the Latin Mass is fine. In this case they were not supposed to celebrate it that way, though. Not a problem with the Mass-a problem with those who attempted to hold it.

    #5422

    Victor
    Member

    [quote:2po7jgb0]What I meant was, the FORM of the Mass was not the problem. It was that they were rebelling agaisnt authority.[/quote:2po7jgb0]

    This is kinda how I understood it.

    ~Victor

    #5423

    Yeah. It’s like, a kid playing basketball when his parents tell him not to. Is there anything wrong with basketball? No, not inherently. But when a rightful authority tells you not to do it, and you do it anyway, it becomes wrong.

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