May 5, 2005 at 8:28 pm #1049
Alright this has been eating at me for the past little bit. I am a Christian, I believe in the Trinity, I believe that Baptism is an important process in your personal walk with Jesus Christ. I believe that Jesus is coming back and that everyone has had a chance to hear / believe in Jesus as their Savior as stated in the Scriptures. I believe that God is the ruler of my life and I have submited my life and given controll to him. I believe that the scriptures are true and I do my best to govern my life by them with the help of my Savior Jesus Christ.
These are the beliefs I have held as a Christian for some time now. And according to my Christian Brothers and Sisters This has been correct. However, from a Catholic point of view, Do you see faults with this profession of faith? Anything missing? Do you as a Catholic believe that I can enter heaven, even though I go to a church pastored by a man who, although loves Jesus with all his heart was not a successor of Peter, and a church which does not follow the catholic beliefs of maintaining under the Pope?
Deep down inside I believe that Catholics and Christians sterio-type each other so much that the two sides almost loath each other. However, I believe that at our roots, We believe the same things. Each side has its own set of beliefs conserning other aspects/interpretation of the Bible. But has anyone ever thought that this could be the work of Satan the enemy to have us go at each others throats to prevent a union under Christ for a Church more powerfull than any before? Setting aside our differences, (specific prayers, Biblical interpretation ect.) We are all the same, Brothers and Sisters in Christ who believe that Jesus came to this world of a Virgin, that he lived, died on the cross, and that he rose again 3 days later, just as he will raise his church to be a powerfull presence in this world. Think for one second, how influential we would be, if we were to lay our pride down (on both sides) Took the basic biblical principals and came together to do as Christ intended for us. Would that not be the most incredible thing ever? How effective can we be if we keep chewing at each others throats?
just some food for thought….
-SiberianMay 9, 2005 at 7:22 am #4419
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I think what you are getting at is the basic tenet of the ecumenical movement. While not watering down the faith we are gathering with other Christian traditions to discuss our differences and possibly clear the air.May 9, 2005 at 8:24 am #4424
Yeah I know I do. Only 17 and the world is just… well confusing! Im at the point where I’m being bombarded from every side with questions, contraversies (spelling? ” title=”Razz” />) and all sorts of wonderfull things. Got so caught up in it I started looking for answers. Wound up here. (Partialy also to further understand Catholic Traditions/Beliefs due to my dating question post) But yeah, just seeking, that what I’ve resorted to doing. When I post I cant help but just spill it all out… this stuff keeps me up at night… And with that, I’m off to bed for tonight. I’ll keep this to only a few paragraphs ” title=”Razz” />
G’night all… SiberianMay 10, 2005 at 1:49 pm #4465
It is a huge jump to start believing in God. Then after that, it is another huge jump to believe He has a Son, and yet there is still only one God.
So, all Christians have this basic part of Faith agreed upon. The major differences between Catholics and protestants are usually as follows (keep in mind these are GENERAL protestant beliefs, I can’t speak for every single one):
Authority: Protestants believe our only infallible authority is the Bible, whereas Catholics believe also in the infallability of the Pope and the Magisterium.
Salvation: Protestants believe we are saved by Faith alone, while Catholics believe works play an important process as well. However, in my various conversations with protestants, it usually becomes apparent that Catholic and protestant viewpoints on this subject are not TOO different. But definitely far enough apart to create a discrepancy.
Mary and the Saints: Catholics honor, venerate and pray to Mary and the Saints. Protestants don’t.
Purgatory: Catholics believe in purgatory. Protestants don’t.
Sacraments: With the exception of a few Protestant groups, none believe in any sort of Sacraments. Some believe in Baptismal regeneration (though not very many, seemingly), and a few believe in consubstantiation (most notably Lutherans), although even there, they don’t believe in transubstantiation. Catholics believe that Baptism, Penance, the Eucharist, Confirmation, Marriage, Holy Orders, and Anointing of the Sick are all Sacraments given to us by God to infuse Grace. The most important of these Sacraments, however, is the Eucharist, the centerpiece of Catholic theology. Because as Jesus said, “Unless you eat my flesh, and drink my blood, you have no life in you”.
So there are diffferences, and, at least in my opinion, the Catholics are always right. Protestantism broke [i:2iy2a78c]away[/i:2iy2a78c], and I believe that was and still is a grave error. The Catholic Church claims to be the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic church, and it also claims no other churches possess these qualities. So basically, if one isn’t in the Catholic Church, one is saying one doesn’t believe what it teaches, because THAT is what it teaches.
But you are definitely correct in saying that the differences are not as pronounced as some suggest. Also, I hope eventually all schismatic and heretical churches eventually re-join their mother, the Catholic Church. That would TRULY make the devil quite unhappy indeed.May 10, 2005 at 3:35 pm #4485
Well said Uncertaindrummer.
Is that a quote by St. Thomas Aquinas?
~VictorMay 10, 2005 at 3:49 pm #4487
I agree aswell. And thank you for that post stating the main differences, quite helpfull indeed. A more in depth post will come soon but my new video card just arived ” title=”Very Happy” /> ” title=”Very Happy” /> ” title=”Very Happy” /> must go install now! see ya all in a bit.
SiberianMay 10, 2005 at 3:53 pm #4488
[quote:x3pvvssb]Well said Uncertaindrummer.
Is that a quote by St. Thomas Aquinas?
I’m not sure… I didn’t include who quoted it because I couldn’t remember if it was Aquinas or an early Church Father…
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