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  • #1392

    Bernardine
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    #6979

    Bernardine
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_ … muslims_12
    This doesn’t look good.

    #6984

    Benedict
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    Can you find a link to the Pope’s original remarks?

    The very short quote in the avoce link is devoid of any context.

    #6985

    Benedict
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    #6986

    Andres Ortiz
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    In case anyone wants to read the full text it is here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/p … 6_pope.pdf

    The quote in question is on page 2, second paragraph. I don’t really see what the problem is. Sounds like people just trying to stir up a fury over nothing.

    #6987

    weather
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    http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/wl/033002pope
    Whats with the muslims,everytime there is a discussion or something is said they don’t like they have to protest with there GUNS. see slide show pic #11 & 14.

    #6990

    Bernardine
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    The Islamic religion just plain frightens me.

    #6991

    Bernardine
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    [quote:29lwvv0g]In case anyone wants to read the full text it is here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/p … 6_pope.pdf

    The quote in question is on page 2, second paragraph. I don’t really see what the problem is. Sounds like people just trying to stir up a fury over nothing.[/quote:29lwvv0g]

    Wow, great link! Thanks.

    #6993

    Andres Ortiz
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    Personally, the fact that Muslims around the world are angry and showing it by fire-bombing churches and whatnot goes to show how true that statement really is.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/09 … index.html

    Read any reliable history of Islam and you will see that it was, [i:tj4q6nu9]in fact[/i:tj4q6nu9], spread by the sword. Mohammed led much conquest and many battles in his day.

    #6994

    Bernardine
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    Pope said to be upset Muslims offended
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060916/ap_ … pe_muslims

    #7001

    weather
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    #7002

    weather
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    A Fair Deal for Both Muslims and Pope Benedict!

    Friday , September 15, 2006

    By John Gibson

    The Muslims are mad again.

    This time it’s Pope Benedict, who quoted a 14th century Byzantine emperor who was engaged in a debate with a Muslim scholar.

    The emperor, quoted by our modern-day pope, asked his Muslim friend, “Show me what Mohammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.”

    Sounds bad, right?

    But the sentence went on.

    “For instance,” said the ancient emperor so long ago, “such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

    Muslim leaders around the world reacted with anger, even fury.

    Muslim leaders demanded an apology from Benedict and the Vatican has reacted quickly trying to sooth hurt feelings.

    People want Pope Benedict to take it back.

    Ok, I’ll go along with that but I think those of us who are still suffering from the jihad movement should be able to demand something in return:

    The pope and the rest of us will take back the insult, which is that the prophet brought things evil and inhuman, if Muslims will renounce the rest of the statement. That is, the true fact that Islam approves of spreading the faith by the sword.

    That in a nutshell if jihad. That in a phrase is exactly what brought us 9/11 and Abu Musab al- Zarqawi and Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and the rest of the sorry bunch.

    Now, I know moderate Muslims say jihad is not killing people for religion. But let’s face facts some Muslims do believe that.

    It seems like a fair deal to me. Islam renounces jihad against infidels those who believe other than Muslims and those who believe different than Muslims will renounce any statements Muslims find offensive.

    It’s not even a straight-up trade. On this side of the religious divide, the insults will end. And on that side of the religious divide they will disavow killing us.

    How about that deal?

    That’s My Word.

    Source Fox News

    #7006

    Victor
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    [quote:25koby9h]Personally, the fact that Muslims around the world are angry and showing it by fire-bombing churches and whatnot goes to show how true that statement really is.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/09 … index.html

    Read any reliable history of Islam and you will see that it was, [i:25koby9h]in fact[/i:25koby9h], spread by the sword. Mohammed led much conquest and many battles in his day.[/quote:25koby9h]

    [color=darkblue:25koby9h]True, but only pointing it out to them is going to inflame them. I’m no expert, but I have dealt with some pretty violent people (some are family) and not once did pointing out to them their past actions/flaws did they take it lightly. It usually got them mad.

    On other side, it clear to me that B16 had no intention to critique Islam. As Jimmy said,
    [i:25koby9h]one who portrays the religion as intolerant thereby encourages violence against members of that religion[/i:25koby9h]

    That is what was intended.[/color:25koby9h]

    #7010

    Andres Ortiz
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    [quote:334y7xoo][color=darkblue:334y7xoo]True, but only pointing it out to them is going to inflame them. I’m no expert, but I have dealt with some pretty violent people (some are family) and not once did pointing out to them their past actions/flaws did they take it lightly. It usually got them mad.[/color:334y7xoo][/quote:334y7xoo]
    That sounds like an issue of pride and humility to me.

    #7012

    Victor
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    [quote:2ku4iasy][quote:2ku4iasy][color=darkblue:2ku4iasy]True, but only pointing it out to them is going to inflame them. I’m no expert, but I have dealt with some pretty violent people (some are family) and not once did pointing out to them their past actions/flaws did they take it lightly. It usually got them mad.[/color:2ku4iasy][/quote:2ku4iasy]
    That sounds like an issue of pride and humility to me.[/quote:2ku4iasy]

    [color=darkblue:2ku4iasy]It does to me to, how would you help a person with such issues?[/color:2ku4iasy]

    #7013

    The irony of the situation is too thick to shake a stick at. As other’s have mentioned, bombing churches is a fantastic way to prove accusations of violence.

    “We are not violent! How dare you call us violent! Now we will blow up your churches to exemplify our indignance!”

    #7014

    Andres Ortiz
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    [quote:39pzmn3i]The irony of the situation is too thick to shake a stick at. As other’s have mentioned, bombing churches is a fantastic way to prove accusations of violence.

    “We are not violent! How dare you call us violent! Now we will blow up your churches to exemplify our indignance!”[/quote:39pzmn3i]
    Well, that and then I read a quote from one of their leaders calling the pope and the rest of us “infidels”. Where do they get off?

    It’s okay for them to call us names, but the pope can’t even say something that is historically accurate without inciting a riot? This whole situation is a little backwards to me.

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