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May 5, 2005 at 10:40 pm #1050AnonymousInactive
I know you guys must here this a million times over and over. But for myself I need to know. I hear people claim that Catholics worship mary, I hear that they dont. Im just confused do you? Why/Why not? Just lookin for some clarification.
Thanks …. Siberian
May 6, 2005 at 6:55 pm #4402AnonymousInactiveHi Siberian… there’s a post on this topic. I’ve put the link to it below…
May 6, 2005 at 9:02 pm #4408AnonymousInactiveThanks a lot that cleared it up…
-Siberian
May 6, 2005 at 10:45 pm #4410AnonymousInactiveLet us know if you need further clarification.
~Victor
May 7, 2005 at 4:05 am #4411AnonymousInactiveNo thats alright, The line “We dont think Mary is God” was really what I was lookin for, I have heard some twisted things, and that explained it. Thanks.
May 10, 2005 at 1:56 pm #4468AnonymousInactiveNo, we certainly don’t believe Mary is God, although many protestant apologists would probably have you think differently.
(Yes, I am looking at YOU, James White!)
May 10, 2005 at 8:35 pm #4502AnonymousInactiveYes, I hear you, but it still is a sticking point for me (Presbyterian).
It sure SEEMS like you guys view Mary as part of the Godhead sometimes!
To be fair, I’ve been reading a lot about this topic, and am looking forward to Mark Shea’s book about Mary. (Isn’t that funny — I’m a protestant, waiting for a former protestant to finish explaining something that Catholics haven’t been able to justify to me! Crazy old world…)
I’ve been ploughing my way through Weigel’s biography of JPII, and sometimes he seemed almost to include Mary in the Trinity! And, before you say anything about Pope-bashing, this guy is becoming one of my heros…
May 10, 2005 at 9:50 pm #4505AnonymousInactiveWell, it only seems that way because we honor her all the time. But then again, we haven’t done ANYTHING compared to what God did–and does.
He made her the mother of… well… Himself! She says “all generations shall call me blessed”. Elizabeth asks “Who am I, that the mother of my Lord should visit me”. The angel Gabriel calls her “full of grace”.
Surely we can’t do any more honoring her than God has already done.
May 10, 2005 at 11:20 pm #4507AnonymousInactiveFrom the outside it’s easier to see it in such a manner. From the inside it’s obviously not seen that way once you ask the catholic “do you worship Mary?”. Most all catholics will say NO. Although there have been groups like the Collyridians that have indeed worshipped Mary. The Church put a stop to that non-sense, calling it idolatry.
Do we see a pattern now a days?
Catholic Answers puts it best:Modern parallels
[i:3jtmxluq]Collyridianism is seen today in various forms. Those “hyper-Marian” groups and writers who overly exalt Mary and focus on her to the exclusion (or near exclusion) of Christ are guilty of something approaching idolatry. Modern feminism is the source of a recycled Collyridianism that worships a “mother goddess” and seeks to “re-image” God in female terms.[/i:3jtmxluq]
~Victor
PS-Most importantly know with confidence that the Church does not teach such things. Rather catholics begin to deviate from the Church teachings.
May 11, 2005 at 1:20 am #4508AnonymousInactive[quote:1swyj37p]From the outside it’s easier to see it in such a manner. From the inside it’s obviously not seen that way once you ask the catholic “do you worship Mary?”. Most all catholics will say NO. Although there have been groups like the Collyridians that have indeed worshipped Mary. The Church put a stop to that non-sense, calling it idolatry.
Do we see a pattern now a days?
Catholic Answers puts it best:Modern parallels
[i:1swyj37p]Collyridianism is seen today in various forms. Those “hyper-Marian” groups and writers who overly exalt Mary and focus on her to the exclusion (or near exclusion) of Christ are guilty of something approaching idolatry. Modern feminism is the source of a recycled Collyridianism that worships a “mother goddess” and seeks to “re-image” God in female terms.[/i:1swyj37p]
~Victor
PS-Most importantly know with confidence that the Church does not teach such things. Rather catholics begin to deviate from the Church teachings.[/quote:1swyj37p]
Good stuff there. Gotta love Catholic Answers.
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