“Catholics Aren’t Christian”?

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    #3856

    [color=darkblue:231w8bk0]I wish I had a penny for all the times some n-C has alleged this silliness. I could retire in comfort…

    This is just someone’s messed up opinion based on tons of bad info. Chick Publications feeds this with some of the most base and unmitigated lies I’ve ever seen and there are quite a few folks out there who really think that guy’s telling the truth. He milks his “Alberto” comics to death while claiming that he loves Catholics. (I think I’d prefer that he hated us if this is his version of love…). The entire Seventh Day Adventist denomination shares this view of us and worse that we are anti-christ… They have books out that are so full of lies and historical and doctrinal inaccuracies that you have a hard time even knowing where to begin. (I’ve tried).

    This site and many more like it would help greatly [b:231w8bk0]IF[/b:231w8bk0] those folks would come here and read the truth with an open heart. Sadly that really doesn’t happen all that much.

    The fun just never stops <img src=” title=”Wink” /> [/color:231w8bk0]

    Admin edit: Please stop spamming the CA forums. I think there are enough links to them now on this site. If there is a specific page pertinent to this discussion topic then that would be more helpful than just a general link. Thanks.

    #3886

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    The “Catholics aren’t Christian” argument has stemmed from many, many misunderstanding sof the faith.

    I think much of it goes back almost 500 years wgo with the start of the Reformation. Many people began to misinterpret Scripture, the role of authority, the Tradition, etc. People began to have their own ideas and they found followers.

    As for where in Scripture these arguments come from – they aren’t in Scripture. It is some person’s misunderstanding of the truth that has misguided many, many people.

    Personally, I think that the Bible alone movement was very detrimental. I find it very precarious that people think they can limit God’s interaction with humankind to a set of books (or one book as some think).

    Heck, even the Bible proves that to be false. The Bible shows us that God has not revealed himself to us [i:1x8a53ae]only[/i:1x8a53ae] in the printed word, but has interacted with humans for a very long time. All the stories in the Bible show us this. There is no support for Scripture alone in Scripture, yet some people are so blind to this.

    #3911

    Dear Brother and Sister in Christ,
    I can say this to all Catholics my experience as Catholic Christians in every time I engage of conversation with Protestant. Most of this people was once Catholic and decided to leave the Catholic faith partly because the Catholic church this country only read scripture on Sunday during the mass and many that was once a Catholic that do not know what is Catholicism is all about.Now, this may not true in all churches around the country but we need to do more. Many Catholics in the church I have witness are totally ignorant and worst, they too judgemental and often time making to much excuses like not enough people to do the job or it take time to make changes or worried about miss interpretation (my favorite). Many protestant challenge each catholic to provide a biblical proof and most often time no catholic want to engage. I respect the Catholic Answer and Apologetic program, But the real answer is for Catholics need to start reading the bible as part of practical life application in order to understand who we are as christian and as well as Catholic. Everything we need to know about Sacrament, Virgin Mary, Saints, Praying to dead people, Pope, and a whole lot more than you think. This can be done with supervision by the church leader to ensure the consistency of the teaching ( You do not need to have a Master Degree). If there is something you do not understand ask the Holy Spirit for a guide. God will manifest his gospel with clear and concise understanding. The closest resources are the priest, deacon, Bishop, teachers and lay people. The power of the Holy Spirit was given to anyone that except Jesus as their personal Savior and Lord. I respect Cathechist people but they need to grow up sometime. And if you want more, there is a seminar available. If such resources are not available in your parish or church, ask and demand to make it available, even they have to send you elsewhere under the church expenses. I will not worry about those protestant with close minded attitude and start educating ourselves and help other Catholic as well. Then, we will be in a better position to become a light of the world to many ignorant people. I met a lot of Protestant and they are all not like this, at all. I say to all protestant with a narrow minded out there that someday each one of us will answer and stand alone directly to God and the question is HOW I LIVE MY LIFE? NOT OTHERS LIFE…..!
    Even Satan know the scripture and he even tried to use it against Jesus in the dessert.
    In Matthew 7:15-20 Jesus said how to identify the true & false teacher.
    The word of God our Father and the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ is all about Love. This is where many Protestant failed to understand. Love is not just a word but it is an Action…!
    I Apologized if I offend anyone but if you want the truth, this wont be a sugar coated one.
    Remember, God is a loving Father. Through knowledge we strengthen our faith. Through Faith, we do good works. Through our ways, we recieve grace from God.
    God Bless <img src=” title=”Smile” />

    #3929

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    [quote:32xsw7nt]I can say this to all Catholics my experience as Catholic Christians in every time I engage of conversation with Protestant. Most of this people was once Catholic and decided to leave the Catholic faith partly because the Catholic church this country only read scripture on Sunday during the mass and many that was once a Catholic that do not know what is Catholicism is all about.[/quote:32xsw7nt]
    Well, I’ve heard it said that the 2nd largest denomination of Christians is non-Catholics.

    btw, I really loathe thinking of Catholicism as [i:32xsw7nt]just[/i:32xsw7nt] a denomination of Christianity.

    #3938

    Elkabong
    Member

    In the creed, we Protestants (wonder what we’re protesting, and why still?) say, “I believe in the Holy Ghost, the holy catholic church…” meaning the Church entire. Small C sort of lets us off the hook.

    A query: do Catholics view all the church, including those whom I have seen you refer to as “separated bretheren,” as part of the whole Church?

    Just curious.

    #3941

    Andres Ortiz
    Keymaster

    [quote:1gvwaau7]A query: do Catholics view all the church, including those whom I have seen you refer to as “separated bretheren,” as part of the whole Church?[/quote:1gvwaau7]
    Yes, we do. Here is kind of an explanation of it[/url:1gvwaau7].

    It’s awkward to describe and I can’t think of a clear way to do it.

    #3984

    Elkabong
    Member

    I thought I’d read that in the catechism, but wasn’t 100 per cent sure.

    #4048

    My wife Jan came across this article while surfing the web. In short, this article discusses one person’s journey of faith and deals with the issue of can catholics be christian.

    http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a2.htm

    #4130

    Fred
    Member

    [quote:1eja0d3m]In the creed, we Protestants (wonder what we’re protesting, and why still?) say, “I believe in the Holy Ghost, the holy catholic church…” meaning the Church entire. Small C sort of lets us off the hook.

    A query: do Catholics view all the church, including those whom I have seen you refer to as “separated bretheren,” as part of the whole Church?

    Just curious.[/quote:1eja0d3m]

    Yes and there is even been counsels headed by John Paul II and other Christian leaders to help bring us together. Further, The Holy Fatherwrote an Encyclical Letter called UT UNUM SINT[/url:1eja0d3m] (On commitment to Ecumenism 1995.05.25) to help us understand the differences and how we can work to unify the Christian Community.

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