- April 26, 2009 at 6:05 pm #1909
i know the hail mary and the our father and the apostles creed and the glory be and the fatima prayer but i dont know which to say on every bead on the rosary. also some diagrams say “on this bead concentrate on the second mystery or the fourth myster or the third mystery
what mystery??? is that a prayer? or a recitation? if so what is it tell me??April 26, 2009 at 7:39 pm #9335April 26, 2009 at 8:14 pm #9336"James":1ua7mzuu wrote:http://www.geocities.com/snsfarm/rosary.html
http://www.americancatholic.org/Newslet … ay0504.asp
I hope this can answer a few of your questions[/quote:1ua7mzuu]
well the second link told me what some of the joyful mysteries are and others. so the mysteries arent really mysteries…i mean one of the mysteries it sais was Jesus’s birth and death…why is that a mystery? and how do i recite that? i just think about His birth and death?April 26, 2009 at 8:18 pm #9337
In a nutshell, yes. When doing the mysteries, you think about that certain mystery for that decade (group of ten Hail Mary beads.)April 26, 2009 at 8:27 pm #9338
for that decade? so every decade it changes? whats this decades??April 27, 2009 at 7:41 am #9339
One of the problems people have in discussion of Religious ideas, most of all with Catholic and Orthodox ideas, is they think in the terms of the 21rst Century, and the vocabulary of the 21st Century. If we think of Mystery as only a puzzle to be solved, or something that we can’t find an answer to, we are thinking in modern terms. If we include in the definition of Mystery the traditional meaning in religion, that beyond the outward appearence there are greater truths, as we grow spiritually we understand, and will know fully when we see God face to face in heaven.
With regard to mysteries of the rosary or religion in gereral, we can look at the Incarnation. To our human eyes we see a baby born. The mystery here is that God Himself became incarnate, and came to the world as Truly God and Truly Man in the person of Jesus. Not 50% God and 50% Man. Not as simply God taking over the body of a man. But the incarnation of the creator of the world. Over years of study and prayer we come to understand better this mystery, with the promise of knowing and understanding it fully when we see God face to face in heaven.
Traditionally the “full” rosary is praying 15 decades. A decade consists of ten Hail Mary’s, one Glory be to the Father, and one Lord’s Prayer. In recent times five more mysteries where added the Lumenous Mysteries, however these can be included or not depending on the individual’s desire to include them or not.April 28, 2009 at 4:15 am #9341
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that the Rosary was once used by monks. It wasn’t beads and crucifix as it is today. Instead, they had a pocket full of little stones and for each stone they would say a special prayer.April 28, 2009 at 4:20 am #9342
There have been many ways that prayers have been counted, a pocket full of pebbles is one, beads and knotted rope are others.
The most popular form of the rosary (the Dominican Rosary) is composed of 15 decades, wgich represent the 150 Psalms.April 28, 2009 at 4:22 am #9343"LARobert":3e4n2nwi wrote:The most popular form of the rosary (the Dominican Rosary) is composed of 15 decades, wgich represent the 150 Psalms.[/quote:3e4n2nwi]
When was this idea of a Rosary conceved? and is this basically the modern Rosary?April 28, 2009 at 4:40 am #9344
There have been various rosary like prayers, both Pagan, Jewish and Christian. The most common of the Catholic forms of the Rosary, (Dominican Rosary) was composed around 1100, the modern form in Lay people who didn’t have copies of Scripture or the Breviary and lay people and religious who were illiterate would substitute 150 Pater Nosters (Our Fathers) or Aves (Hail Marys) in place of the 150 Psalms they could not read.
The prayers were originally counted by transferring pebbles from one bag to another, but soon enough Christians began to tie a rope with knots on which to count. Desert monastics were in the habit of reciting a specified number of prayers daily and such a method of keeping track of them is natural. In the life of the Egyptian Abbot Paul (d. A. D. 341), we read that he used to collect three hundred pebbles every day and throw away each one as he finished the corresponding prayer he was accustomed to recite. This evolved further into using beads or pieces of wood in place of the knots, and this soon came to be called the “Psalter of the Laity.” Around the end of the first millennium, Rosaries contained the present five decades (sets of ten beads), with the Ave beads shaped like white lilies for the purity of the Virgin, and the Pater beads shaped like red roses for the wounds and Passion of Christ.
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