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  • #1361

    weather
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    ‘Am I going to Heaven?’ is a question that everyone needs to ask himself or herself. I recommend that you take the ‘Am I Going To Heaven?’ Test shown below, and see if you would enter Heaven.

    The gospel message is a simple message that God uses as the ‘power of salvation’ to all that would believe the gospel. Romans 1:16 says, ‘For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.’
    You can know right now whether or not you are going to enter Heaven because Salvation is a present possession received at the moment of trusting Jesus Christ as your Savior and can never be lost or forfeited.

    Why not accept God’s invitation to receive this wonderful ‘gift of eternal life’ right now? You do not receive eternal life by working for it or by trying to make yourself behave. You receive eternal life by believing the record God gave of His Son.

    Doesn’t it make sense to believe the One who came back from the dead and trust Him for the payment of your sin? Why not do it now and you can be sure of going to Heaven when you die? He loves you. Right now, why not accept the payment He has made for your sins and you can KNOW that you have eternal life.

    ‘For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16).’

    Friend, if you sincerely trust in Jesus Christ as your ONLY means of entrance to Heaven, on the authority of God’s Word, you can KNOW that you have eternal life.

    ‘These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. (1 John 5:13).’

    what you think is necessary to get you to heaven.
    1. Trying to keep the Ten Commandments.
    2. Gifts to charity
    3. Doing your best.
    4. Living a good life.
    5. Good works.
    6. Trying to obey the Golden Rule.
    7. Tithing, or giving money to the church.
    8. Church membership.
    9. Regular church attendance.
    10. Prayers.
    11. Fasting.
    12. Water baptism.
    13. Holy communion.
    14. Born of Christian parents.
    15. Confirmation.
    16. Penance.
    17. Extreme unction.
    18. Membership in a lodge or fraternity.

    [color=darkred:2jrtzy97]What if I miss not doing a few of these requirements,does that mean not going to heaven?
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    #6792

    Bernardine
    Member

    Matthew 7:21 Jesus said, [color=red:3avp2alf]”Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.”[/color:3avp2alf]

    #6795

    Ron K
    Member

    Hello Weathers,

    I know the answer to your question of [quote:1jef74nq]’Am I going to Heaven?’ [/quote:1jef74nq]

    its – none of the things you wrote down though and I doubt that you’ll get a straight answer from here. ….. but I’ll keep watching

    I do like your posts

    Ron

    #6843

    weather
    Member

    :what: You got me in suspense Ron(I could not sleep all night),what is the magic forumula to get to heaven?Tell us all

    #6844

    Ron K
    Member

    [color=red:13539jay][b:13539jay]Trusting in the shed blood of Christ for Salvation ALONE gets somebody into Heaven[/b:13539jay][/color:13539jay] – [u:13539jay][b:13539jay]NONE[/b:13539jay][/u:13539jay] of the choices you gave does that unless they can could do them perfectly and I only know of one individual that ever did things perfectly (It wasn’t Mary)

    Like that favorite song of mine goes —

    [color=darkblue:13539jay]”What can wash my sins away? Nothing but the blood of Jesus”[/color:13539jay]

    #6846

    [quote:3dnkt2wg][color=red:3dnkt2wg][b:3dnkt2wg]Trusting in the shed blood of Christ for Salvation ALONE gets somebody into Heaven[/b:3dnkt2wg][/color:3dnkt2wg] – [u:3dnkt2wg][b:3dnkt2wg]NONE[/b:3dnkt2wg][/u:3dnkt2wg] of the choices you gave does that unless they can could do them perfectly and I only know of one individual that ever did things perfectly (It wasn’t Mary)

    Like that favorite song of mine goes —

    [color=darkblue:3dnkt2wg]”What can wash my sins away? Nothing but the blood of Jesus”[/color:3dnkt2wg][/quote:3dnkt2wg]

    :rolleyes:

    What exactly does “trust in the blood of Jesus” mean?

    #6848

    Ron K
    Member

    Uncertaindrummer asked

    [quote:384rn0a8]What exactly does “trust in the blood of Jesus” mean?[/quote:384rn0a8]

    John 6:28+29 – says – Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, [b:384rn0a8][u:384rn0a8]that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. [/u:384rn0a8][/b:384rn0a8]

    so we look to see what He did and that is that He died so we might live and I can quote all the verses that says He took our sins to the cross, purifying anyone whosoever believes such as –

    1 Pet 2:24-Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    2 Cor 5:21-For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

    Heb 1:3- Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, [u:384rn0a8][b:384rn0a8]when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; [/b:384rn0a8][/u:384rn0a8]

    [i:384rn0a8][b:384rn0a8]So to answer what I mean, I mean are you believing that you will go to Heaven because of what Jesus did on thne cross OR are you believing that you’ll go to Heaven because of the Catholic way “if you reach a certain level of being good enough, pugatory,priestly confessions, sacraments, your owm good works? but to believe one way is to deny the other way….. which are you going to trust to get purified? [/b:384rn0a8][/i:384rn0a8]

    as far as your comment of -_________________
    [quote:384rn0a8]”I would rather live my life as if there is a God and find out there is NOT one, then live my life as if there isn’t a God, and fine out there IS one”
    [b:384rn0a8][i:384rn0a8][/quote:384rn0a8]
    Just knowing that there is a God won’t save you unless you believe in that Biblical God !!![/i:384rn0a8][/b:384rn0a8]
    [u:384rn0a8][b:384rn0a8]
    I Jn 1:6 -If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: [/b:384rn0a8][/u:384rn0a8]

    #6849

    Benedict
    Member

    [quote:caje6pl0]So to answer what I mean, I mean are you believing that you will go to Heaven because of what Jesus did on thne cross OR are you believing that you’ll go to Heaven because of the Catholic way “if you reach a certain level of being good enough, pugatory,priestly confessions, sacraments, your owm good works? [u:caje6pl0]but to believe one way is to deny the other way[/u:caje6pl0]….. which are you going to trust to get purified?[/quote:caje6pl0]
    Absolutely false. The Catholic view of salvation is in perfect harmony with and wholly dependent upon Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. To even put them in opposition is to be grossly ignorant of Catholic soteriology.

    What is Catholic soteriology?

    In a nutshell, “We are saved by grace through a faith that works.” Faith without works is dead. Works without faith are dead.

    Jesus said, “If you love me, keep my commandments.” Jesus gave us the two great commandments: to love God with all your heart, mind, and soul; and to love your neighbor as yourself. Both are fulfilled in good works.

    And when the Son of man shall come in his majesty, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit upon the seat of his majesty. And all nations shall be gathered together before him: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

    Then shall the king say to them that shall be on his right hand: Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat: I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.

    Then shall the just answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry and fed thee: thirsty and gave thee drink? Or when did we see thee a stranger and took thee in? Or naked and covered thee? Or when did we see thee sick or in prison and came to thee? And the king answering shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me.

    Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, which was prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me not to eat: I was thirsty and you gave me not to drink. I was a stranger and you took me not in: naked and you covered me not: sick and in prison and you did not visit me.

    Then they also shall answer him, saying: Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to thee? Then he shall answer them, saying: Amen: I say to you, as long as you did it not to one of these least, neither did you do it to me. And these shall go into everlasting punishment: but the just, into life everlasting. (Matthew 25:31-46)

    #6850

    [quote:jfofx0z9]Uncertaindrummer asked

    [quote:jfofx0z9]What exactly does “trust in the blood of Jesus” mean?[/quote:jfofx0z9]

    John 6:28+29 – says – Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, [b:jfofx0z9][u:jfofx0z9]that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. [/u:jfofx0z9][/b:jfofx0z9][/quote:jfofx0z9]

    Well that is all well and good but James says even the devils believe in God and Jesus. So… that obviously cannot be ALL we need to do. Believing in Jesus can be many different things.

    [quote:jfofx0z9]so we look to see what He did and that is that He died so we might live and I can quote all the verses that says He took our sins to the cross, purifying anyone whosoever believes such as -[/quote:jfofx0z9]

    What are you trying to say? That we don’t think what Jesus did was important?

    [quote:jfofx0z9]1 Pet 2:24-Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

    2 Cor 5:21-For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

    Heb 1:3- Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, [u:jfofx0z9][b:jfofx0z9]when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; [/b:jfofx0z9][/u:jfofx0z9][/quote:jfofx0z9]

    Are these supposed to be a problem for me?

    [quote:jfofx0z9][i:jfofx0z9][b:jfofx0z9]So to answer what I mean, I mean are you believing that you will go to Heaven because of what Jesus did on thne cross OR are you believing that you’ll go to Heaven because of the Catholic way “if you reach a certain level of being good enough, pugatory,priestly confessions, sacraments, your owm good works? but to believe one way is to deny the other way….. which are you going to trust to get purified? [/b:jfofx0z9][/i:jfofx0z9][/quote:jfofx0z9]

    Do you get sick of being so wrong all the time? Either you are gravely misinformed, or you are simply lying. Which is it? Where do you get the idea that we don’t think one is saved by Jesus? I mean, really. Where did you come up with that?

    [quote:jfofx0z9]as far as your comment of -_________________
    [quote:jfofx0z9]”I would rather live my life as if there is a God and find out there is NOT one, then live my life as if there isn’t a God, and fine out there IS one”
    [b:jfofx0z9][i:jfofx0z9][/quote:jfofx0z9]
    Just knowing that there is a God won’t save you unless you believe in that Biblical God !!![/i:jfofx0z9][/b:jfofx0z9]
    [u:jfofx0z9][b:jfofx0z9]
    I Jn 1:6 -If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: [/b:jfofx0z9][/u:jfofx0z9][/quote:jfofx0z9]

    That is my sig. It has nothing to do with the current argument.

    #6851

    Ron K
    Member

    Uncertaindrummer says: [quote:18midk72]Well that is all well and good but James says even the devils believe in God and Jesus. So… that obviously cannot be ALL we need to do. Believing in Jesus can be many different things. [/quote:18midk72]

    What takes away sins? Jesus is God – We cannot add to or even think that We can do something to take away sins. The point I’m making for example is as I’ve attempted to illustrate, Hebrews 1:3 says “After having purged us of our sins ….” yet your church teaches about Purgatory” – which goes against God’s Holy Word, but you would stand firm as a good catholic to defend that teaching… so which is it that you believe in? And I could go on and on and on…

    #6854

    [quote:1w127269]Uncertaindrummer says: [quote:1w127269]Well that is all well and good but James says even the devils believe in God and Jesus. So… that obviously cannot be ALL we need to do. Believing in Jesus can be many different things. [/quote:1w127269]

    What takes away sins? Jesus is God – We cannot add to or even think that We can do something to take away sins. The point I’m making for example is as I’ve attempted to illustrate, Hebrews 1:3 says “After having purged us of our sins ….” yet your church teaches about Purgatory” – which goes against God’s Holy Word, but you would stand firm as a good catholic to defend that teaching… so which is it that you believe in? And I could go on and on and on…[/quote:1w127269]

    I really don’t even understand the purpose of this post. Purgatory most certainly doesn’t go against any Biblical teaching. Indeed, if one were to look up 1 Cor 3: 10-15, one would find a rather concise explanation of purgatory.

    In fact, it is the erroneous protestant idea that we can enter Heaven while sin still holds sway over us (unlike Catholics, who believe any lingering sin or effects of sin must be purged) who are voiding the Word of God, by ignoring the fact that the Bible clearly says nothing unclean shall enter Heaven.

    But go ahead, interpret the Bible for yourself. After all, it isn’t like Peter condemned such a practice or anything :rolleyes:

    #6857

    Ron K
    Member

    Uncertaindrummer says:
    [quote:l3ixm6oa]
    I really don’t even understand the purpose of this post. Purgatory most certainly doesn’t go against any Biblical teaching. Indeed, if one were to look up 1 Cor 3: 10-15, one would find a rather concise explanation of purgatory[/quote:l3ixm6oa].
    This is a good example of why catholism is wrong – 1 Cor. 3:10-15 never mentions of a place such as purgatory or people in it – read it for yourself – it says our works (intent, or purposes in doing the works) are examined and revealed to determine a believer’s reward. Furthermore no where does the Bible say fire takes away sins – (His) blood was what does that – Hebrews 9:27.

    [quote:l3ixm6oa]In fact, it is the erroneous protestant idea that we can enter Heaven while sin still holds sway over us (unlike Catholics, who believe any lingering sin or effects of sin must be purged) who are voiding the Word of God, by ignoring the fact that the Bible clearly says nothing unclean shall enter Heaven. [/quote:l3ixm6oa]
    I am not ignoring anything – Jesus says HIS blood takes away sins and I believe Him – Romans 5:9 Hebrews 1:3, Isaiah 53:5, 1 Peter 1:18-19, Ephesians 1:7 , Colossians 1:14+20 and Rev 1:5 So what sins are you referring to?

    [quote:l3ixm6oa]But go ahead, interpret the Bible for yourself. After all, it isn’t like Peter condemned such a practice or anything [/quote:l3ixm6oa]
    Peter never condemned checking out and believing Scriptures – He was saying that none of the Scriptures are a result of someone’s abilities to think them up, that the Holy Spirit is responsible – Scriptures tell us plainly to test everything and warns us about deceptions!

    #6860

    Benedict
    Member

    [quote:14wrfg7k]Furthermore no where does the Bible say fire takes away sins[/quote:14wrfg7k]
    Where does the Catholic Church teach that fire takes away sins?

    And do not say Purgatory, because that is not what Purgatory is.

    #6861

    Ron K
    Member

    Benedict says:[quote:ie40h0nn]
    Quote:
    Furthermore no where does the Bible say fire takes away sins

    Where does the Catholic Church teach that fire takes away sins?

    And do not say Purgatory, because that is not what Purgatory is.[/quote:ie40h0nn]

    Yet earlier asuncertain drummer said:
    [quote:ie40h0nn]
    I really don’t even understand the purpose of this post. Purgatory most certainly doesn’t go against any Biblical teaching. Indeed, if one were to look up 1 Cor 3: 10-15, one would find a rather concise explanation of purgatory [/quote:ie40h0nn]
    .
    Which is it? Does not 1 Cor 3:15 talk of: [color=red:ie40h0nn]If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. [/color:ie40h0nn]

    Seems that you guys talk quite often out of both sides of the issues
    (no disrespect intended)

    #6866

    Benedict
    Member

    1 Corinthians talks of “as by fire” not “by fire”. It is drawing upon the common imagery of using fire to purify precious metals. It is an analogy.

    If it seems we are talking out of both sides of the issue, it may be because you are not reading close enough what is being said.

    #6868

    Ron K
    Member

    Benedict says:

    [quote:37si1mqt]
    1 Corinthians talks of “as by fire” not “by fire”. It is drawing upon the common imagery of using fire to purify precious metals. It is an analogy.

    If it seems we are talking out of both sides of the issue, it may be because you are not reading close enough what is being said.
    [/quote:37si1mqt]

    Analogy? Ha-ha – are all of your prayers for the souls in Purgatory then
    an analogy too? And what about the sins that Purgatory supposedly removes or removes – are you now saying that they are still there? This is getting crazy. How does your church then claim that we can be purified?

    #6876

    [quote:20lnwc3n]Benedict says:

    [quote:20lnwc3n]
    1 Corinthians talks of “as by fire” not “by fire”. It is drawing upon the common imagery of using fire to purify precious metals. It is an analogy.

    If it seems we are talking out of both sides of the issue, it may be because you are not reading close enough what is being said.
    [/quote:20lnwc3n]

    Analogy? Ha-ha – are all of your prayers for the souls in Purgatory then
    an analogy too? And what about the sins that Purgatory supposedly removes or removes – are you now saying that they are still there? This is getting crazy. How does your church then claim that we can be purified?[/quote:20lnwc3n]

    Ron, you are not even *trying* to understand. Why on Earth should we keep taking to you when you obviously don’t even WANT to find out what Orthodox Catholic teaching really is?

    #6879

    Ron K
    Member

    Uncertaindrummer said:
    [quote:3qf7h7tv]
    Ron, you are not even *trying* to understand. Why on Earth should we keep taking to you when you obviously don’t even WANT to find out what Orthodox Catholic teaching really is?
    [/quote:3qf7h7tv]

    What is it that I don’t understand
    1 – the Bible teaches that we are purged , washed , cleansed, redeemed
    by Jesus at Calvary
    2- Catholics claim we are cleansed (our final purification takes place here) by purgatory or we can merit graces through sacraments

    Seems very clear to me that we have two opposite Gospels here

    #6882

    Benedict
    Member

    Ron,

    You are either being deliberately dense or you are in actuality dense.

    Regardless of which, until you get your act together any further discussion with you is a waste of time.

    #6883

    Ron K
    Member

    Benedict you said:

    [quote:30tjbwhn]You are either being deliberately dense or you are in actuality dense.

    Regardless of which, until you get your act together any further discussion with you is a waste of time.[/quote:30tjbwhn]

    Why?
    Just because I recognize the problem ? That If one way is the Biblical Gospel then the other one cannot be the gospel. Why do you deny what is so clear?

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