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You stated:

[quote:2nmecafi]As usual you are in your own universe Ron.[u:2nmecafi][b:2nmecafi] I was asking for you to define the individual teachings[/b:2nmecafi][/u:2nmecafi], not for you to cut and paste snippets of what the teachings are.[u:2nmecafi][b:2nmecafi] I wanted you to be as comprehensive as possible, so we know how you define, or narrowly misdefine what the Church teache[/b:2nmecafi][/u:2nmecafi]s [/quote:2nmecafi]

Yes and that’s what I gave you – often from your own sources such as your Catechism and Catholic answers. Now I don’t know what you expected but there it is – and now you say
and shown that your contorting things to mean what they don’t mean is either pathological or simply due to the brainwashing you have had against the Catholic Church. [/quote:2nmecafi]

which is a typical type of response that I get from you so-called uppity- ups that think you can snowball anyone and everyone. I gave you my honest answers defined as I best could, but noooooo that isn’t good enough for you. I don’t think you are capabile of a “fighting the good fight” by honest and open debates [/i] without twisting THE FACTS. Seriously you remind me of the pharisees to whom Jesus spoke to in Matthew 23 –

[color=red:2nmecafi]But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation. 15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves[/color:2nmecafi].

And I don’t care if my cut and pasting bothers you in the least, you understand what I said and what Scriptures have shown me – You are in a lost religious cult – That much I do know very clearly – with a false Gospel that saves no one except for those that can break away from your “religion.”