[quote:1pzt15wb][quote:1pzt15wb]I know, but you seemed to be asking whether this was due to love or in spite of love.[/quote:1pzt15wb]

[color=darkred:1pzt15wb]I think Jon got the same impression. I suppose I was looking more for which quality of God wins out (bad wording) when confronted.[/color:1pzt15wb][/quote:1pzt15wb]

They aren’t in conflict, that’s the point.