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[quote:83ji2cvm]Uncertaindrummer says:
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What is nonsense about using Scriptures to interpret Scriptures? Luke 5:21 says that fact that only God can forgive sins. Why would God allow to sinful men such “power” so that He Himself wiould have to follow Man’s ways – You better think again,my friend. [/color:83ji2cvm][/quote:83ji2cvm]
First of all, using Scripture to interpret Scripture is self defeating. It doesn’t work. It is yet another in a long line of your logical fallacies. But for the moment, I will disregard that.
GOD FORGIVES SINS. There is no doubt about that. ONLY God can forgive sins. And ONLY God can perform miracles. And yet, God works many miracles through His Apostles. In the same way, He gave them the power to forgive sins. He SAYS it, RIGHT THERE, and you have no alternative explanation. Your drivel about “no, He just meant that the Apostles could *inform* people if their sins are forgiven” is simply WRONG. He doesn’t say that. He says, whoever’s sins they forgive, are forgiven. Period.
[quote:83ji2cvm]Why” because there is a need for you to hear how you’ve been and are being sold a false Gospel that saves no one.[/quote:83ji2cvm]
Sold? Is that so. If it is so false, why are all the crazy mangled bending into pretzel interpretations YOUR ideas, where as I just look at Scripture and believe it?
[quote:83ji2cvm]You don’t have to believe me but look at what I’m saying and compare what I say to the Word of God itself – read my website I explain every detail complete and simple enough that anyone that really wants to see and spend eternity in Heaven
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I have no desire to look at your website. Far better apologists than you have attempted to bring down Catholicism and they all fail, because the Gates of Hell will not prevail agaisnt God’s Church.
[quote:83ji2cvm]The Church is the pillar and foundation if they follow God’s instructions[/quote:83ji2cvm]
Ah, Ron. You are starting to really crack me up. That isn’t what the Bible says. It simply says the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. YOU added this other stuff onto the end. YOU are making void the word of God by your man made traditions.
[quote:83ji2cvm]but it isn’t some “denomination” that claims religious superiority and does so many of the things that goes against God’s Word such as yours or JW’s, Mormans, Moslems etc…. [/quote:83ji2cvm]
And yet… I’m listening to the bile and you aren’t? So how does my Church go agaisnt the bible which you jsut tried to explain away by adding your own idea onto the end of a very clear, poignant Biblical verse?
[quote:83ji2cvm]and the church that is started by Christ is all of the saved individuals put together – [/quote:83ji2cvm]
Says who? The Church is a very real institution, as evidenced by everything in the Bible.
[quote:83ji2cvm]so how does anyone figure that Catholicism is that Church when many “catholics” don’t even care how they believe or what they believe, especially with all of your Traditions that DOES go against Scriptures.[/quote:83ji2cvm]
My Church WROTE the Scriptures. It doesn’t go against them.
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Satan divides marriages too – what is your point? [/quote:83ji2cvm]
Yes, you are right, and when Satan divides a marriage, it ruins the marriage. Hence, when your Church is splintered, it just goes to show how fake it was. But it doesn’t endanger the *institution* of marriage when one couple fails, and in the same way Satan cannot get his hands on the real *institution*, the Catholic Church. I find your analogy very fitting.
[quote:83ji2cvm]You are saying nothing that I haven’t heard from Scriptures – Matthew 7:13+14 tells us the same thing to the max! Jesus told His desciples to go and preach, making others into believers in Matthew 28:20 – that is my authority and that has never changed yet. [/quote:83ji2cvm]
Sure, but His disciples recieved their authority from Him. Did He come to you in a vision and tell you that YOUR way is correct? (And it is YOUR way.)