[quote:6c4vhzil]I’ve never met you before but I can undoubtingly see that you’ve been decieved BIG TIME!!![/quote:6c4vhzil]
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[quote:6c4vhzil]The rest are sacraments to you and your church but they never were called sacraments in the Bible.[/quote:6c4vhzil]
Let me remind you again that the entity responsible for conveying you and everyone else the Bible has been the Church. It was the Church through the Holy Spirit that decided what was fitting to be Holy Scripture (New Testament) and what wasn’t, confronting them with Holy Tradition, the Faith handed down by the Apostles. Luther couldn’t have done it by himself in the 16th Century, so he just decided without the Holy Spirit what would be the Protestant canon from amongst the books that the Catholic Church and the Holy Spirit had perserved from the very begining.
[quote:6c4vhzil]1 Baptism doesn’t save anyone[/quote:6c4vhzil]
I’m just wondering here, does your Church even abide to the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed? Because, if it does, the Church’s belief on the validity of baptism for the remission of sins is there plainly stated for anyone who reads or utters it. If it doesn’t abide to it, it isn’t a Christian Church anyway.
[quote:6c4vhzil]2 communion is done in remembrance of Calvary – no real presence as you may think[/quote:6c4vhzil]
It’s not just me who believes in it. Christ said it so. The Apostles and the Church Fathers believed in it and so it has been kept for the last 2000 years in the Catholic Churc (and Orthodox as well).
[quote:6c4vhzil]3 Confirmation – ?[/quote:6c4vhzil]
If you don’t know what Confirmation is, I’ll clear it up for you: it is the gift of the Holy Spirit passed on to the baptized believer through the bishop. It is traced to the day of Pentecost. I’m sure you know what that day is, right?
[quote:6c4vhzil]4 ordination – No such thing as Apostolic succession[/quote:6c4vhzil]
Please, at least study some Church history before saying such nonsense.
[quote:6c4vhzil]5 Penance – for what? Jesus took care of my sins with His death – your priest cannot remove any sin![/quote:6c4vhzil]
It’s not the priest who removes or forgives the sin. It is Christ, ever present in the Church. The priest is His instrument. Also, you should’ve read those verses I posted about this one where Christ empowers the Apostles with the authority to forgive sins.
[quote:6c4vhzil]6 Anointing of the Sick – okay but what part is to be called a sacrament?[/quote:6c4vhzil]
It is a sacrament because it conveys God’s grace. There have been some cases where the Anointing has physically cured some ill people, but its primary goal is to better prepare the soul to meet God. That’s why it’s also called Extreme Unction.
[quote:6c4vhzil]7 Matrimony – again I ask why is this a sacrament?[/quote:6c4vhzil]
Then, you must understand first what the Church understands to be a sacrament. I’d personally advise you to read all of the Catechism of the Catholic Churc – enlightening stuff – but for this issue in particular it’s enough for you to read the [b:6c4vhzil]Part Two – The Celebration of the Christian Mistery[/b:6c4vhzil], especially articles 1 and 2 of chapter one, section one. Available here, just scroll down a bit: [url:6c4vhzil]http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/ccc_toc.htm[/url:6c4vhzil].
[quote:6c4vhzil]AND Scriptures were around before the Church, The Old Testament for example.[/quote:6c4vhzil]
What about the New? Who was responsible for discerning between canonical and non-canonical texts and preserving them? I’ll let you guess that one.
[quote:6c4vhzil]And furthermore God is the author of Scriptures through inspiration of men – not by your Catholic Church![/quote:6c4vhzil]
The Church is guided by the Holy Spirit as Christ promised. Don’t you believe His promises?