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Jon said:

[quote:8m93y9od]That makes about as much sense as trying to learn math from an English textbook. Yes, let’s look more into the movement of Christianity that separated from the church Jesus established….real brilliant.[/quote:8m93y9od]

That’s a bit offensive. Why look into the lives of Christian Reformers? Well it’s the Reformation that encouraged the Catholic Church’s own reform, which they finally understood was needed. If understanding history, especially as it relates to your faith, is a waste of time then by all means don’t do it… If everyone only studied what they knew and what they thought was right then we would have little understanding of culture, history, religions, basically everything that we need to know to talk about our faith in a relevant matter.

As the leader of this web forum you can choose to debate about the events of history as they have affected the present or write off such certain moments in history as not worthy of your study, i.e. something not too “brilliant” in doing.

Protestants have historically thought that the form the Catholic Church was in at that time was unbiblical, well perhaps, extra-biblical. Still, the more I study it the more I realize that all the Christians involved at that time made many mistakes, Catholic and Protestant alike. I disagree with Catholics on many things but I have chosen to learn more about it (otherwise why would I be on this forum) in order to better understand what it is I believe and what can be integrated or even merged between the two.

I appreciate the frank honesty of Benedict, even though we have had numerous differences (Catholics and Protestants have a huge barrier to overcome no matter how good they are to each other!) and I have learned much about the average Catholic.

Personally, there is nothing wrong with ones conviction that their Church is the best one (maybe superior is too strong a word, we cannot know superiority related to faith matters) but I think it is very important that those who are opposite each other work to understand each other. This is where I must resign in this discussion because it is no longer constructive, though I have appreciated some of the constructive criticism.

Were the Early Church Fathers Catholic? I agree they were Catholic in the sense that they belonged to the universal faith of Christianity but as of now there is no such thing as a universal institution but only a universal membership to the body of Christ which Prots and Caths alike belong to in faith but apart by institution.