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[quote:12m2dnqc]Look Victor, this is not a Game,[/quote:12m2dnqc]

[color=darkred:12m2dnqc]Where in my post am I suggesting that it is?[/color:12m2dnqc]

[quote:12m2dnqc]Salvation is a free gift for all who believe in Jesus (Romans 6:23)[/quote:12m2dnqc]


[quote:12m2dnqc]Believe what about Jesus? That He took our sins to the cross and gave us His righteousness (2 Corinthians 5:21) We aren’t going before the Father on judgment day resting in how righteous we got because our righteousness is as filty rags (Isaiah 64:6)[/quote:12m2dnqc]

[color=darkred:12m2dnqc]I gave specific examples:
1. The ten commandments
2. In the Trinity
3. In Heaven and Hell
You have chosen to go down your own path as always. Please answer my question. I’m not going to go down this road with you again. Do you have to believe in what I noted and other essential beliefs to be saved? [/color:12m2dnqc]

[quote:12m2dnqc]Do we get it by works? not ours but His (John 6:28,29) You can’t believe that we will be judged upon our degree of attaining righteousness because we’d be like the Isrealites of Romans 9:31,32 and 10:2+3 Furthermore if we have to earn it then it isn’t a gift, nor free but a wage. God is in the grace department.[/quote:12m2dnqc]

[color=darkred:12m2dnqc]Ron, you have to remember that most issues discussed in regards to works is talking about Judaic Law. Or as I told you before works done outside of Grace. Works done in Grace are perfectly acceptable to God. The only time someone asks Christ what they must do to be saved
the rich young man asking Our Lord, “What must I do to be saved?” is answered the same today: “Obey the commandments”, i.e., Love of God, love of neighbor. So when we do works it is only a response to God’s Will. A crucial question that I would like to get your thoughts on is if a person does not produce any works, do they go to heaven?[/color:12m2dnqc]

[quote:12m2dnqc]If you defend Purgatory, you are proving then that His work at Calvary wasn’t good enougth. [/quote:12m2dnqc]

[color=darkred:12m2dnqc]Hogwash! That is not because Christ’s work is not enough. It’s rather the application of the work of Jesus Christ. Purgatory is not a second chance either. Understand this and we can move forward.[/color:12m2dnqc]

[quote:12m2dnqc]Is this to hard to understand?[/quote:12m2dnqc]

[color=darkred:12m2dnqc]Not at all. <img decoding=” title=”Smile” /> [/color:12m2dnqc]