I came back here because Victor asked if I could spare some of my time that he did not have to spare.

I see now that no amount of common sense will do you good. You can throw scriptue passages at me all day long. You think I haven’t READ them? How about reading 1 Corinthians 3:10-15. Just read it with an open mind and tell me what you think of it.

Your theory that: Jesus saved us so we need do nothing. What of the fact that all Jesus did while on Earth is exhort us to DO things! Just READ the Gospels man, without prejudice or singling out of specific passages. Just read them, and notice HOW OFTEN we are told to [i:29r20owr]do[/i:29r20owr] things by Jesus. Then go read James.

In the meantime stop stalling the discussion of purgatory by bringing your entire system into this. I KNOW you think you are saved by Faith alone. But exlpain to me what happens to someone who (is “saved” of course) dies with undeadly sin. What happens?

When you deal with my arguments and stop coming up with the childish answer that faith alone will save you, perhaps we will have something to talk about.