Justification = cleansing = being made righteous before God by the blood of the Lamb.
Salvation = final reward for doing the will of the Father until death (if someone is justified). [/quote:3p00jkka]
the bibles says – happened instantantaniously when we trust in what Jesus did –
Rom 4:2-5 [color=darkred:3p00jkka] For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham [u:3p00jkka]believed [/u:3p00jkka]God, [b:3p00jkka][u:3p00jkka]and it was counted unto him for righteousness.[/u:3p00jkka][/b:3p00jkka] Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. [b:3p00jkka][u:3p00jkka]But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness[/u:3p00jkka][/b:3p00jkka][/color:3p00jkka].
Gal 3:21,22 -Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Acts 16:31 – And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Ephesians 1:13 – In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also [u:3p00jkka][b:3p00jkka][color=darkred:3p00jkka]after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, [/color:3p00jkka][/b:3p00jkka][/u:3p00jkka]
1 Cor 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
These are already justified but still living people. Did you note Romans 4:5 which said “He justifies the ungodly” who believe?
Instantanious not a process – why? Because 2 Corinthians 5:21 – For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
How is this done- imputation –
Rom 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God i[u:3p00jkka][color=darkred:3p00jkka]mputeth [/color:3p00jkka][/u:3p00jkka]righteousness without works, (KJV)
Rom 4:22- 24 And therefore it was [color=darkred:3p00jkka][u:3p00jkka]imputed [/u:3p00jkka][/color:3p00jkka]to him for righteousness. now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was i[color=darkred:3p00jkka][u:3p00jkka]mputed[/u:3p00jkka][/color:3p00jkka] to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be [color=darkred:3p00jkka][quote:3p00jkka][u:3p00jkka]imputed[/u:3p00jkka][/quote:3p00jkka][/color:3p00jkka], if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Now as you were saying about the Priests / reconciliation – I wrote 2 articles touching on this at my website http://www.freewebs.com/gospellightmin/articles.htm
article 5 –
1) – John 20:23 – “If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.” Based upon this statement, along with the “binding and loosing” given in Matthew 18, we see the misconception among those who claim their priest or pastor is able to forgive those that come to him. However, using the complete Bible to let Scripture interpret itself, we find that only God can forgive sins, as even the Pharisees knew this (Mark 2:7). And our sins are or aren’t forgiven based upon John 3:36 – “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” So the disciples, having spent three years learning from Jesus, they knew His ways, could now preach and teach to others. As other people heard and believed, they were saved (Ephesians 1:13,14). The disciples could tell if anyone was or wasn’t a follower based upon what that individual beliefs were by what they did and said, “… for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. ….. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned” (Matthew 12:34-37). Thus, the disciples could inform others of whether or not their sins were forgiven based upon whether or not they were believers. One more point here to realize God is in control, not man. For man to have the power to forgive sins, then God would be under man’s control.
And – Article #27 – Ministry of Reconciliation Which is to long for me to paste here – please take the time to read them