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"Papa.Cod":24e54uqt wrote:
"passionately_catholic":24e54uqt wrote:
just to clear things up, we believe that the mother of God had no sin because God prevented her from doing all forms of sin, so ultimately all the credit goes to God…[/quote:24e54uqt]
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :lol: Nnnnot according to your compendium: catechism of the Catholic church book…it says [i:24e54uqt]Q: What does the “Immaculate Conception” mean?” A: God freely cose mary from all eternity to be the Mother of his Son. In order to carry out her mission she herself was ‘conceived immaculate.’ [b:24e54uqt]This means that, thanks to his graces of God and in anticipation of the merits of Jesus Christ, Mary was preserved from original sin for the first instant of her conception[/b:24e54uqt][/i:24e54uqt][/quote:24e54uqt]

How about John the Baptist? Thought also in the theological circle as ‘born without sin” why? Because he is full of the Holy Spirit before he is born:

Luk 1:15 “for he will be great before the Lord, and he shall drink no wine nor strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb.

What’s full can’t be filled any more!

Mary is called God’s hail favored one “Full of Grace”

1) to make graceful
a) charming, lovely, agreeable
2) to peruse with grace, compass with favour
3) to honour with blessings

Just the use of the one word ‘favored’ shows Mary made graceful by God

Mary is called to help save Israel, with the same biblical words Gideon is:

Jdg 6:12 And the angel of the LORD appeared to him and said to him, “The LORD is with you, you mighty man of valor.
Jdg 6:14 And the LORD turned to him and said, “Go in this might of yours and deliver Israel from the hand of Mid’ian; do not I send you?”

If John the Baptist can be full of the Spirit in his mothers’ womb, (Luke 1:15, 41). Why not Mary?

As far as “anticipation in the Merits of Christ” We are in time, god is eternal, time does not apply. In Eternity, God sees the Sacrifice of His Son, before it happens in our time. Thus Mary is saved by Jesus’ sacrifice but prevented from being born of original sin, in prepartion for Christ’s incarnation.

Example: We are pulled from the pool of sin by Christ Sacrifice, and Mary was saved from ever being in the pool by that same sacrifice.

Adams sin, passed down to generation to generation by his tainted blood, desease and death entered the World. And by behavior and example.

Jesus would have received this also, if Mary had not been prepared to be a clean vessel to carry Jesus incarnate. She also must have lived an exemplary life of Good and Godly behavior, as an example to Jesus inhis youth.

Not everything is meant to be placed in scripture.

Jesus Christ is superior to the Scriptures, they are about Him, they do not contain him. Jhn 20:30; 21:25.

The Bible is the living Word, and cannot contain all that Taught, Even in the Hebrew Scriptures, men of God taught throughout.

Deut 6:7, “and you shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise.

God bless,